this is for those of us who know and love the undead

which undead have you used to the best effect in your game?

  • skeletons

    Votes: 10 7.4%
  • zombies

    Votes: 11 8.1%
  • wraiths

    Votes: 8 5.9%
  • stone zombies

    Votes: 2 1.5%
  • shadows

    Votes: 12 8.9%
  • liches

    Votes: 18 13.3%
  • ghosts

    Votes: 8 5.9%
  • spectral wizards

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • spectors

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • vampires

    Votes: 38 28.1%
  • other

    Votes: 25 18.5%

Re: undead

Sanackranib said:


It's not just YOUR PC's. ALL PC's fear level drainers and I know that those undead that darin levels or stats are the most POWERFULL it's just I was curious which ones proved the most USEFULL in your game and USEFULL can have MANY meenings:D

Mine might have feared it a little more than most would, simply because I give out so much less xp than the DMG standard (in my game I give out flat xp regardless of level so higher levels take a lot longer than lower levels to earn) and characters level up so much more slowly.

I WAS responding to how useful they have been in MY game, I remember the party slaughtering dozens of orcs and half orcs with fighter levels, and coming out almost unscathed, defeating harpies no problem, a troll and high level npcs without much loss and then turning tail and running at the sight of one lone wight in a loin cloth.

Later one of the major NPC villains (a priestess of undeath) was turned into a wight, and in turn killed a PC and raised him as a wight slave. He had to work for her for years, unsuccesfully trying to work around his commands and get people to kill her. Since the party finally succeeded in that the whole party's quest has been to get him turned normal again (fairly difficult in Ravenloft). The PC has gone through the agonies of undeath, reveled in the power, seen the serious downsides, and provided tons of plot and group motivation. Fleshing out the nature of undeath and the particulars of wights have been big issues in my game.
 

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Liches. Liches are more than just savage hunger from beyond the grave. They are a calculating, intelligent evil. Sure, some liches take on lichdom with the thought that they will just dwell in their lair and pursue their experiments harmlessly away from humanity. But some day, the liches experiments will turn them towards a dastardly route that requires the sacrifice of living beings ... and liches have long since lost their care of humanity.

Liches are where it is at when it comes to undead villainy.
 

i haven't had many chances to include the undead in my games, but i had a great experience with a vampire (thus my vote)

party goes underground, notices evidence of a drow takeover of the dwarven ruins they're exploring. at one point, they make a little too much noise, attract some drow guards and decide to stay and fight...until they noticed a beautiful drow woman crawling across the ceiling showing her very long canine teeth. they screamed like little girls and ran for the surface :D
Piratecat said:
Monte has a ghoul template on his site, incidentally.
there was a discussion about this in Rules some time back. all Monte did was compare a ghoul (and ghast) to an average human commoner, write down the differences and came up with this 'template'.
 


Actually, after seeing what happened in my test of the ELH for my campaign last night, my new votes go to:
Death Knights
Vampires

They almost destroyed the party where Baphomet failed.
 

I'm a wraith man, myself!

Can't quite beat phantasmal beings that run through the walls at you.

Though, personally, I prefer Cthonian monsters...nothing quite beats being on a subway being attacked by things that go through walls....it's righteously creepy! :)
 

You guys are harping on the Ghoul's paralyzation ability when the Lich has the same thing added onto at least 11 spellcaster levels, high intelligence, and almost impossible to kill permanently (with an evil DM anyway). How can you like ghouls more than liches? O_o

Heh, guess I am partial to liches :P
 

undead

I find it difficult to believe that noone has voted for spectral wizards, these guys are only 1d4 levels less then what they were while alive. I have only had a party encounter one once (he was controling a "thirst" of 24 undead stirges. they beat him but they were "freaked out".
 

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