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RigaMortus2 said:
In my day we had "head bangers" (listen to Metallica/Primus/MegaDeth) which turned into "grunge" (when Nirvana/Pearl Jam/STP came out) which turned into "goth" (when Marilyn Manson came out) which turned into "emo" (because of bands such as Fall Out Boy)

I think that is a pretty accurate progression to my recollection :)

Except Goth culture is still alive and well. And though I knew one or two kids who carried over from grunge to goth, that was more the exception than the rule...
 

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Whizbang Dustyboots said:
Wow, no.

Punk and heavy metal were both the music of empowerment: "Life sucks so I'm going to shotgun a beer, kiss your girlfriend and kick you in the jimmy."

Grunge was heavy metal's whiny little brother: "Life sucks, I'm going to write in my journal in my bedroom while listening to Eddie Vedder pretending to be a girl."

Goth, which predates Marilyn Manson by a good bit, is about owning one's own problems: "My life sucks, so I'm going to dress up nice for the funeral."

Emo is grunge reinvented, but with terrible fashion sense: "After I finish listening to Fall Out Boy, I'm going to cut my own hair."

How could I forget about Punk?! (love Green Day & Blink 182).

I'm not suggesting one created the other. But that is pretty much the order each one became popular in, at least in the highschool I went to. The head bangers that listened to GnR and Metallica eventually listened to bands like Green Day, then came bands like Nirvana. When I got out of HS, it went from Blink 182 to bands like Marilyn Manson. Now it is bands like Fall Out Boy. So that is how I remember it from my youth.
 

RigaMortus2 said:
The head bangers that listened to GnR and Metallica eventually listened to bands like Green Day, then came bands like Nirvana. When I got out of HS, it went from Blink 182 to bands like Marilyn Manson. Now it is bands like Fall Out Boy.
I so want to cry now.

/class of '88.
 

Actually, most people stick with the kind of stuff they liked in high school and college and don't move on at all.

The guys who listened to GnR and Metallica are still doing it, just on the classic rock station and not on the one they used to listen to.

RigaMortus2 said:
I'm not suggesting one created the other. But that is pretty much the order each one became popular in, at least in the highschool I went to. The head bangers that listened to GnR and Metallica eventually listened to bands like Green Day, then came bands like Nirvana. When I got out of HS, it went from Blink 182 to bands like Marilyn Manson. Now it is bands like Fall Out Boy. So that is how I remember it from my youth.

The message that each genre has is very different, and so is the audience, IMO. The folks I know who like emo music would never have embraced heavy metal or punk back in the day, because it's telling them something very different.

Like I said, heavy metal is "life sucks, so I'm going to fight and party and fight and party."

Emo is "life sucks, so I'm going to have a good cry."
 



Wormwood said:
My iPod doesn't go past 1992.
Mine does -- that's the year I graduated college, in fact -- but it's taken a conscious act to open myself back up to modern music, mostly via podcasts like Coverville, That Sound Radio, Morning Becomes Eclectic, the KCRW Song of the Day and MPR Song of the Day.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots said:
Actually, most people stick with the kind of stuff they liked in high school and college and don't move on at all.

The guys who listened to GnR and Metallica are still doing it, just on the classic rock station and not on the one they used to listen to.

Me, I was born about 20 years too late for my musical tastes. It's hard to be a fan of Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, and the Doors when you never have any hope of seeing them in concert.
 

RigaMortus2 said:
How could I forget about Punk?! (love Green Day & Blink 182).

Green Day and Blink 182 ISN'T punk.

Marilyn Manson IS NOT goth.

And Korn and Linkin Park definitely AREN'T metal.

They're POP music pure and simple, in the same category as Britney Spears and whoever else. Now most of them are in fact better than the last ones mentioned, but they aren't bands of those respective genres.

Now it's a hard distinction for those who aren't involved with punk or goth or metal, to tell what's in those genres and what's pop music. But those who are, know what's really in the genres.
 

Moridin said:
Me, I was born about 20 years too late for my musical tastes. It's hard to be a fan of Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, and the Doors when you never have any hope of seeing them in concert.
If you've been saving your pennies, you can see Led Zep (more or less) play in 2008.
 

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