Jack Simth
First Post
Divine Metamagic (and similar effects) simply allow you to use the effect without the higher level slot. Nothing overrides the original clause from Crafting Metamagic Versions of Spells that states:Correct, but I'm going a bit further than that.
I'm saying our good friend the Warlock can not only scribe that scroll of Miracle... but he can scribe a scroll of MODIFIED miracle.
(emphasis added)SRD said:Magic Items and Metamagic Spells
With the right item creation feat, you can store a metamagic version of a spell in a scroll, potion, or wand. Level limits for potions and wands apply to the spell’s higher spell level (after the application of the metamagic feat). A character doesn’t need the metamagic feat to activate an item storing a metamagic version of a spell
OK... so you can skip having the actual feat for the metamagic to make a scroll... but you're still paying through the nose per casting, and the save DC is basically nil due to the way save DC's for scrolls work.i.e. a Miracle that's been altered by the heighten metamagic feat, for example.... without needing to have Heighten.
I think you guys aren't seeing what i'm getting at here.
So?
Technically, Limited Wish can do the same thing directly, because of the way that Metamagic Feats are worded in the first place:
(emphasis added)SRD said:As a spellcaster’s knowledge of magic grows, she can learn to cast spells in ways slightly different from the ways in which the spells were originally designed or learned. Preparing and casting a spell in such a way is harder than normal but, thanks to metamagic feats, at least it is possible. Spells modified by a metamagic feat use a spell slot higher than normal. This does not change the level of the spell, so the DC for saving throws against it does not go up.
So when you cast Limited Wish to duplicate, say, an Enlarged, Extended, Empowered, Maximized, Intensified, Twinned, Repeating, Energy Admixtured (three or four times, with different elements), Widened Freezing Sphere, as it's still a 6th level Wizard Evocation. And you get to use your own save DC this way.