Y'know, that's exactly the analogy I was going to make, but didn't simply because a lot of EN World's readers are new in the last few years and woudn't get the reference. But yes; if I needed a catchprhase for the subject it would be "Is Kickstarter the new d20 glut?" [in fact- I'm gonna edit that into the title; I figure enough people will get it].All these KS items popping up on ENW remind me somewhat of the d20 glut in the early OGL days.
I'm not sure about the distinction you're making. If someone posts a Kickstarter project, they almost always post different "levels" of what you can expect if you donate that amount of money. That is, if they post that for $50 I'll get a print copy of a book, then I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to get a print copy of a book. If I don't, then I don't think it's unreasonable for me (or whoever) to be angry about that. I've seen some that make a distinction for small donations, saying, essentially, "thanks for the donation!" and that's all you get for it. Even if they simply say "give me $50 and I'll work on this game," then yeah, it's on me to understand that I shouldn't expect anything. Thing is, many of the ones I've looked at specifically promise an actual, tangible product in return for certain donation amounts. Any that don't, I would never support.I think a lot of people are blurring the line between investment and donation. Sure, if I put money into something with some expectation of return and it's all gone, I'd be upset. But with kickstarter you're funding someone's effort, not his product.
You and aurance are right; nothing prevents someone from simply taking the money and giving nothing in return. That's a good point. That's why I discussed how important a track record is for someone who posts a Kickstarter. Someone who has a name and reputation they don't want ruined, or someone with a body of work already established, is a much better risk.I think aurance phrased it poorly...you are donating toward the production of a final product...but there is nothing (currently) legally binding about those price points you are donating at. I think all it will take though, is for one high profile kickstarter to go belly up before we see that challenged as fraud in court.
Well, yeah, depending on whose Kickstarter you throw money at. When Steve Jackson started the OGRE Kickstarter, I don't think anyone expected it to come to nothing. They probably fully expected to get a product for the money, just as they do when they order from Steve Jackson Games.And at the end of the day, when you make that pledge, you have to say to yourself...I am prepared for the eventuality that I'm just farting this money away.
That may be technically correct, but really, that's not the expectation. In a marketing sense, "Pay me to give it the good old college try" is apt to be a non-starter.I think a lot of people are blurring the line between investment and donation. Sure, if I put money into something with some expectation of return and it's all gone, I'd be upset. But with kickstarter you're funding someone's effort, not his product.
I'm going to guess at one of two dynamics to explain this:"According to the research, only about 25 percent of projects ship on time, and the more a project exceeds its goal, the more delays it faces.