Top 25 Sci-Fi movies/tv (1982-present)

Mistwell said:
Personally, I don't think any animation belongs on the list (and if it did, it would probably be Miyazaki, and not Cowboy Friggen Bebop). This feels like a live-action type list, and animation should be on a separate list much like it is for things like Academy Awards.
Why should animation be kept separate from live action stuff? The Academy Awards comparison isn't a good one at all, since that is nothing but a prejudiced ban on any animation getting "Best Picture" awards based on some stigma that "animation is just for children".

However, I do agree that Cowboy Bebop is not exactly the best title to put on a top 25 list. It is mostly held together by filler and circumstance, and character development and the main plot are both very choppy. I don't think very highly of Ghost in the Shell either.

On the other hand, while some of Miyazaki's films are probably sci-fi, such as two of my favorites, Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind and Laputa - Castle in the Sky, they fit into a very different genre than a lot of the more traditional sci-fi you see on this list. It is an odd conundrum, really... Where does sci-fi end and some other genre begin? Tough to say.

I still vote for the UC Gundam stuff, myself.
 

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TwinBahamut said:
Why should animation be kept separate from live action stuff? The Academy Awards comparison isn't a good one at all, since that is nothing but a prejudiced ban on any animation getting "Best Picture" awards based on some stigma that "animation is just for children".
An animated film has won best picture at least once.
 

A lot of excellent early 80's movies just miss the 25-year cut: The Day After, for example.

The 'ones we left out' article is on the money and a lot of stuff other have mentioned should have been on there as well. Babylon 5 and Buffy/Angel should be there. Iron Giant certainly should. I'd add The Truman Show, Contact, Alien Nation, Buckaroo Banzai.
 

Meloncov said:
An animated film has won best picture at least once.

Not yet, at least by the Academy Awards. Disney's Beauty and the Beast was the first animated feature ever nominated for Best Picture, but didn't win. Walt Disney was also given a special Oscar for Snow White, but not Best Picture.
 



Thanee said:
Rotten Tomatoes agrees with you, though it is stated, that the movie can hardly be classified as sci-fi. :)

Well, it's not Sci-fi in the aliens-invade sense but it involves a machine that doesn't exist today, and the ramifications of it's use. One good definition of science fiction I've seen is that if you have still have a plot if you remove the science fictional element, then it isn't science fiction. The plot would not exist without the machine, so I'd say that makes it a quintessential SF movie.

Fallen Seraph said:
Also this is one of the first top sci-fi list of the last 25 years, I have seen not to have Blade Runner as number 1.

1982. It no longer qualifies in 2008 :)
 

Thanee said:
Rotten Tomatoes agrees with you, though it is stated, that the movie can hardly be classified as sci-fi. :)

Havn't seen it, so no idea myself.

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No. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is pure science fiction. In many ways it's more sci-fi than most of the rest of the list.

It just isn't set in space with lasers.
 

WayneLigon said:
Fallen Seraph said:
Also this is one of the first top sci-fi list of the last 25 years, I have seen not to have Blade Runner as number 1.
1982. It no longer qualifies in 2008 :)

Blade Runner is on the list, it's just not number one. Which is fine by me; I always found it overrated. The scenes with Rutger Hauer were excellent, but the rest of it left me rather cold. (I know I'll probably be lynched for this, but that's the way I feel about it.)

Mistwell said:
Back to the Future, E.T., and Bladerunner also had a massive impact on the industry.

Dark City, 13th floor, and Gattaca, while all fine movies, did not leave a lasting impression on the hearts and minds of people regarding Sci-Fi. For many, they were good but relatively forgettable (or not seen at all, actually).

Being good and being popular/big in the industry are two different things. Dark City and Gattaca certainly left an imprint on me, since I found both quite thought-provoking. (The Thirteenth Floor not as much, but I still found it more interesting than The Matrix.)
 


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