Yes. You still 'hit' your opponent, you just don't do enough damage.Hypersmurf said:So if I make a normal attack with a longsword, dealing 3 points of damage against DR 5/-, you'd say the attack wasn't negated, just the damage, right?
To clarify. Without it you get people saying that you need to do 6+ pts of damage to get past 5/- DR, and so that touch attack with the contact poison didn't do 6 points of damage, so it doesn't work. With the clarification, you know that the touch attack of the contact poison can still work. But that doesn't mean that the normal damage starts working. Your interpretation means that a normal dagger thrown by the MT is as effective as a silver dagger against a werewolf. My interpretation doesn't go against RAW, but still makes sense with the werewolf, and still lets the MT get past the armor bonuses. (even natural armor)So why mention touch attacks at all if they work exactly like normal attacks?
Coredump said:To clarify. Without it you get people saying that you need to do 6+ pts of damage to get past 5/- DR, and so that touch attack with the contact poison didn't do 6 points of damage, so it doesn't work. With the clarification, you know that the touch attack of the contact poison can still work.
The text says negate and not affect. I think this refers to the fact, that a TA can transport spells or spell-like effects, regardless whether it dealt any damage or not, because the attacker hit the opponent with a touch attack which cannot be negated by the damage reduction. Independet from this the DR does reduce weapon-damage as ist does normally. Otherwise the rules would have to say, that touch attacks do ignore DR, or the other way round, that DR does not affect touch attacks, what they don't doSRD 3.5 said:Damage reduction does not negate touch attacks, energy damage dealt along with an attack, or energy drains. Nor does it affect poisons or diseases delivered by inhalation, ingestion, or contact.
I really disagree Hypermurf. In the core books there is no way to do physical damage with a touch attack, aside from energy damage, spells, poisons, energy drains etc...Hypersmurf said:So again - why mention touch attacks, if you're going to treat them exactly the same as melee attacks?
DR does not negate touch attacks. The Master Thrower's ability lets him make an attack that is not negated by DR. If you let the DR prevent that attack from having any effect on the target, the attack has been negated, which explicitly does not happen to touch attacks.
-Hyp.
Xiam said:I think this refers to the fact, that a TA can transport spells or spell-like effects, regardless whether it dealt any damage or not, because the attacker hit the opponent with a touch attack which cannot be negated by the damage reduction.
TheGogmagog said:By stating this, it makes it clear that the energy damage or energy drain which is not being delivered by a spell is still delivered unaffected by DR.
Aside from this thower ability, what other ways can you do physical damage with a touch attack?