Touch Of Golden Ice

[Ahnehnois]

So pretty much each time I physically touch anything of evil alignment they are going to suffer ability damage which will stack.

As others have noted, the fort DC is fixed and easy. That said, 1's happen and the feat never runs out. Bottom line, this feat is one of those that is just blatantly overpowered. If you want to fix it, you'd have too put a concrete limit on it. Don't let your PCs take this feat! It is crazy.

 

[anest1s]

First of all, if you touch the armor of the creature instead of the creature, it still works? I would say no...or every time someone used unarmed strike we would roll against normal AC for normal damage and touch AC for that ability. It just feels wrong. However I am not sure either.

 

[Empirate]

Well, you can deliver a touch spell by either making a melee touch attack, or by connecting with a regular unarmed attack vs. non-touch AC. I'd apply the same logic to Touch of Golden Ice.

 

[RedTonic]

To stick in a meta-analysis point, ravages are the BoED's way of allowing super good characters, the characters who put the capital G in the Good alignment, to use poisons. I think it's a dirty trick, and I don't allow LG or exalted characters to use ravages in my game. The part where a lot of them are freakishly powerful and and easily available is beside the point. (Seriously--a VoP PC can snag Touch pretty quickly!)

 

[the Jester]

Your post wasn't very helpful but I look at your avatar and must tell you I love pugs. My campaign I made my friend have a Dire Pug animal companion.

LOL, sorry I couldn't be more helpful, I don't have the BoED and every time this feat comes up someone seems to bring the nymph golden shower thing up. I'm honestly curious... no, I take it back, I'm not.

Anyway, to tangent a moment on pugs in gaming- first, there's a poster on here somewhere who goes by Dire Pug. I don't know how active he is, haven't seen him for quite some time.

Second, according to Chinese mythology, the foo is the direct ancestor of the pug, so you may find that of use in gaming- either having it be literally true and giving pugs some supernatural goodness or else just having it be a legend, or have them be foo/dog crossbreeds, or else just symbolic of the foos (who rush to defend attacked pugs)... Obviously I've given this too much thought. (I actually once used a pug as a miniature representing a collossal epic foo beast. The pug is question, btw, is named Foo.)

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

To be fair, Touch of Golden Ice is also one of only like 3 actual good exalted feats to take with your Vow of Poverty.

I don't mind it at all on a monk. I felt a little dirty using it with my pouncing wild-shaped druid, but then i remembered she'd actually be more powerful without the VoP and got over it.

But yeah, the DC is crap, the whole point is to just get lots of attacks in and hope for some 1s.

 

[Jack Simth]

To be fair, Touch of Golden Ice is also one of only like 3 actual good exalted feats to take with your Vow of Poverty.

Well.... there's around three highly useful Exalted feats for a generic Vow of Poverty character. For specific builds, there's more. A Vow of Poverty Druid, for instance, can benefit greatly from Exalted Companion - if nothing else looks good for some odd reason, the Celestial template means you don't need to invest anything in Handle Animal anymore - and Exalted Wild Shape (Su abilities of a reasonably nice set of critters...).

 

[Dandu]

A thought occurs to me.

You have to actually touch the enemy - that means if you wear gloves, or strike him with another body part that's covered with clothing, the hit doesn't count. The average adventurer is stuffed to the gills with magical bling, which prevents him from truly making use of the feat. Thus, until you describe in painstaking detail where every bit of gear and clothing your character has is located, you won't do a thing with the Touch of Golden Ice feat.

 

[kitcik]

[MENTION=85158]Dandu[/MENTION],

That's a Water'd down analysis.

 

[Dandu]

Then again, surely germs can live on your clothing and be carried through by sweat.

Oh wait, ravages, not diseases. Never mind.