[Trailer] Man of Steel

I thought the re-boot and origin story for the xmen was awesome. I liked the reboot and origin story for the new star trek a lot. I knew both of those stories....I completely disagree with your personal opinion.
 

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I thought the re-boot and origin story for the xmen was awesome. I liked the reboot and origin story for the new star trek a lot. I knew both of those stories....I completely disagree with your personal opinion.

All of this is a personal opinion. X-Men did not have a reboot it had a prequel. I did not read the X Men before it was made into a movie so having an origin story was nice. I know a lot of people who didn't read the X Men comics and were really unaware of of who they were. As for Star Trek since they were going to reboot the franchise and use the original characters and ship then they needed an origin story for the new Trek universe.

Superman has had four live action TV shows that I can think of off the top of my head. Four movies have been made, numerous cartoons, comics I think most people are familiar with Superman origin even if they never really read the comics. I am a huge Superman fan but if this movie is going to be a another origin story then I will wait to see it. I have already seen young Clark dealing with his issues going to metropolis falling in love with Lois. Superman be shown to the world. Personally I would like to see something different.
 

Superman has had four live action TV shows that I can think of off the top of my head. Four movies have been made, numerous cartoons, comics I think most people are familiar with Superman origin even if they never really read the comics. I am a huge Superman fan but if this movie is going to be a another origin story then I will wait to see it. I have already seen young Clark dealing with his issues going to metropolis falling in love with Lois. Superman be shown to the world. Personally I would like to see something different.

Thing is, the film isn't for you or me. It's for the millions of people who haven't seen Superman The Movie or Smallville. I mean, the movie was 40 years ago and Smallvile was watched by only a couple of million people (see here). The truth of the matter is that there are millions upon millions upon millions of people who haven't seen either, let alone older TV shows.

So yeah, I remember that 40 year old movie. And so do you. But there's a hell of a lot of people who don't. To an early-teens kid, to whom it was made 30 years before they were born, it's the equivalent of my having been familiar with a movie made in the early 40s when I was that age. And I can tell you, I wasn't familiar with many early 1940s films when I was 13.

It ain't for us. Well, it's more for me because I don't mind seeing an origin story that's only been shown once before in film, and 40 years ago at that. But I can totally understand if you don't want to see that story ever again.
 

Thing is, the film isn't for you or me. It's for the millions of people who haven't seen Superman The Movie or Smallville. I mean, the movie was 40 years ago and Smallvile was watched by only a couple of million people (see here). The truth of the matter is that there are millions upon millions upon millions of people who haven't seen either, let alone older TV shows.

So yeah, I remember that 40 year old movie. And so do you. But there's a hell of a lot of people who don't. To an early-teens kid, to whom it was made 30 years before they were born, it's the equivalent of my having been familiar with a movie made in the early 40s when I was that age. And I can tell you, I wasn't familiar with many early 1940s films when I was 13.

It ain't for us. Well, it's more for me because I don't mind seeing an origin story that's only been shown once before in film, and 40 years ago at that. But I can totally understand if you don't want to see that story ever again.

I get that it is the same argument I have used with LOTR purist who didn't like the changes made to movie. Those movies were made not made for the rabid fans but for everyone else.

With my limited movie budget it will take a lot for me to spend money at the theater on another origin film unless I hear that is fantastic. My point is how much is needed of the origin to get into the meat of the movie can you spend five or ten minuted with his childhood and then a few minutes more with him coming to metropolis and still make it understandable for people who don't know the origin?

Star Wars filled us in with what we needed to know by scrolling an introduction across the screen. Could something like that be done. I am not trying to say that the producers are wrong just that as a Superman fan this really does not appeal to me.
 

Directed by the guy who directed Watchman...Man...that's the worst news I've heard. Some may have liked it, I thought the movie stunk high horse feces. Luckily it looks like it's Producer is Nolan...so there may be hope...cross my fingers.
 

Thing is, the film isn't for you or me.

This. If Superman was written for us, it would have been written in a way that the world knows about Super humans. People in that setting would know Batman fights crime in Gotham, Supes would be a total D-Bag for letting Bane terrorize Gotham for almost half a year, etc. The movie universe would be more akin to the Marvel Movie Universe (excluding the Sony/Fox licnesed properties) where the events of one movie can possibly affect the next even though the both movies may be focused on different characters instead each property existing in a totally separate self contained universe.
 

Directed by the guy who directed Watchman...Man...that's the worst news I've heard. Some may have liked it, I thought the movie stunk high horse feces. Luckily it looks like it's Producer is Nolan...so there may be hope...cross my fingers.

I agree. The Watchman just didn't cut it for me. It's slightly amusing as a local radio station just brought up this movie about how terrible it was, and if the maker of this is behind it, well we can pretty much count it as a failure! Just my opinion.
 

I completely disagree. We're forever bound to the vision of a director who made a film nearly 40 years ago? Superman: The Movie (the last movie featuring a Superman origin story) was in 1978! For a 10 year old kid today, that's 30 years before he was even born. Why should he have to be familiar with some (to him) ancient film? And why should a modern director have to be restricted by it?

Nah, I'm totally fine with new people with new visions doing their thing as best they can. Sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't.

If the kid really digs Superman, he'll go back and watch the old film. And if it really was a quality film, it will stand the test of time.

Now the superman case is certainly more extreme than spiderman. It was a long time ago. Spider man wasn't that old of a film. It's principals are still alive, and could have been in a sequel. So that's a bit disrespecting to the original work.

All this is couched in the fact that I don't particularly like reboots and remakes. It is disrespectful to the prior work to attempt to replace it with a new one. it basically says that "this thing you made that will be remembered for all time has just been replaced by this newer, better looking version"

Nobody's running around replacing the Mona Lisa with the Mona Lisa 2000.
 

If the kid really digs Superman, he'll go back and watch the old film. And if it really was a quality film, it will stand the test of time.

Now the superman case is certainly more extreme than spiderman. It was a long time ago. Spider man wasn't that old of a film. It's principals are still alive, and could have been in a sequel. So that's a bit disrespecting to the original work.

All this is couched in the fact that I don't particularly like reboots and remakes. It is disrespectful to the prior work to attempt to replace it with a new one. it basically says that "this thing you made that will be remembered for all time has just been replaced by this newer, better looking version"

Nobody's running around replacing the Mona Lisa with the Mona Lisa 2000.

Yeah, you made your thoughts clear earlier. As I said, I strongly disagree.
 


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