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Ok.

A wizard casts Mage Armor and has an Armor bonus of +4.

"An invisible but tangible field of force surrounds the subject of a mage armor spell, providing a +4 armor bonus to AC."

A cleric casts Magic Vestment on the mage's clothing (worth +2).

" You imbue a suit of armor or a shield with an enhancement bonus of +1 per four caster levels (maximum +5 at 20th level).An outfit of regular clothing counts as armor that grants no AC bonus for the purpose of this spell. "

Now the Mage has an Armour Value of 4. And an Armor enhancement bonus of +2.

Is the Wizards' net AC 4 or 6?

i.e. Armor (4) + Enhancement bonus (+2)

(even though the enhancement is cast on his clothing?)
 

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An enhancement bonus to armor increases the armor bonus of whatever item it's applied to, in this case his clothing.

His clothing now has an armor bonus of +2, and the Mage armor give an armor bonus of +4.

Total Armor bonus: +4, since two bonuses of the same type don't stack.
 


Mage Armor is a "field of force" which not a legal target for a Magic Vestment.

The wizard's armor bonus is +4. Should The Mage armor get removed, the mage does still have a +2 suit of cloths.

two said:
Ok.

A wizard casts Mage Armor and has an Armor bonus of +4.

"An invisible but tangible field of force surrounds the subject of a mage armor spell, providing a +4 armor bonus to AC."

A cleric casts Magic Vestment on the mage's clothing (worth +2).

" You imbue a suit of armor or a shield with an enhancement bonus of +1 per four caster levels (maximum +5 at 20th level).An outfit of regular clothing counts as armor that grants no AC bonus for the purpose of this spell. "

Now the Mage has an Armour Value of 4. And an Armor enhancement bonus of +2.

Is the Wizards' net AC 4 or 6?

i.e. Armor (4) + Enhancement bonus (+2)

(even though the enhancement is cast on his clothing?)
 

His armor bonus is 4. If the cleric was somehow able to cast Magic Vestment on the Mage Armor (not normally an option as already mentioned), then it would be 6.

Of if the cleric cast Mv on a buckler the mage had. That'd work.

But Mage Armor + MV on clothes wouldn't getcha there. Much like wearing padded armor +1 and getting mage armor wouldn't net you a +5.
 


moritheil said:
If your DM allows dastanas (and most apparently don't), that would be another issue.

No, it really wouldn't. Two armor bonuses do not stack.

Chainshirt / dastana / 4-mirror plate thing (known in these parts as "Das Ubershirt") a rules oddity that probably shouldn't of been written... and as such doesn't work for any normal rules discussion. Now if you could stack Chainmail with breastplate, helm, pauldrons, greaves, and gauntlets to create something like field-plate... then you'd have basis. :p

edit: cause like many things of questionable balance from OA... I allow the Ubershirt. :D
 


Drowbane said:
No, it really wouldn't. Two armor bonuses do not stack.

Chainshirt / dastana / 4-mirror plate thing (known in these parts as "Das Ubershirt") a rules oddity that probably shouldn't of been written... and as such doesn't work for any normal rules discussion. Now if you could stack Chainmail with breastplate, helm, pauldrons, greaves, and gauntlets to create something like field-plate... then you'd have basis. :p

edit: cause like many things of questionable balance from OA... I allow the Ubershirt. :D

Except for the fact that dastanas were specifically called out as an armor bonus that stacks with one's normal armor bonus. They were written to break that rule. (That's why most DMs don't allow them.)
 

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