Trinket Mage... Great Idea... or THE GREATEST IDEA....

Is there no limit to the number of times he can cast a spell via a trinket per day?

Because that would be awesome. The variety and caster level strength of spells he'd have access to would then be limited to how much he wants to spend in money and time to make and upgrade trinkets.

Is this what you're suggesting, because if it is, I can see the appeal.

How hard is it to make a trinket?
I think he means what I said in #3. They would have spells per day like any other caster but these trinkets act as focuses for a specific spell. So if he was holding a fire beetle and chose to cast through it any third level or higher spell used would be a fireball.
 

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I think he means what I said in #3. They would have spells per day like any other caster but these trinkets act as focuses for a specific spell. So if he was holding a fire beetle and chose to cast through it any third level or higher spell used would be a fireball.
If this is the case, then it is simply a more complicated, more costly spellcaster with no advantages, only flavor.
 

If this is the case, then it is simply a more complicated, more costly spellcaster with no advantages, only flavor.



Imagine a spellcaster that can read spells off scrolls and the scrolls don't burn up. He carries a book of them and can pull them out at any time whenever needed. Now double the price and that's about what I described.
 

Imagine a spellcaster that can read spells off scrolls and the scrolls don't burn up. He carries a book of them and can pull them out at any time whenever needed. Now double the price and that's about what I described.

Except with limiting it to spell slots I see nothing more than pure flavor being the difference.
 


Imagine a spellcaster that can read spells off scrolls and the scrolls don't burn up. He carries a book of them and can pull them out at any time whenever needed. Now double the price and that's about what I described.
Isn't that exactly what a Wizards spellbook is?

So you want to be able to cast any spell at any time an infinite number of times?
Is this what you are saying the Trinket Mage does? IS there an endless casting and recasting of the spells available each day? Like a Sorcerer who's spell selection is limited by how much money he spends on acquiring and upgrading the strength of his spell selection? Is it a like a Warlock who can cherry pick his invocations off the Sorcerer/Wizard list by spending more money and crafting time?

Because if this is what you are saying the Trinket Mage does, then I could see it being cool. Limiting the variety of spells available by making you have to work and pay for them, but casting an unlimited amount of times per day. Run the risk of your trinkets being lost, stolen or sundered.

I'd play that.

Now, if you're spell selectioin is limited by how much money and time you invest, and you run the risk of your Trinkets being lost, stolen or sundered, without any advantagious return from the class that would make me want to play it over a different class, then I'd have no reason to play a Trinket Mage.
 
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Isn't that exactly what a Wizards spellbook is?


Is this what you are saying the Trinket Mage does? IS there an endless casting and recasting of the spells available each day? Like a Sorcerer who's spell selection is limited by how much money he spends on acquiring and upgrading the strength of his spell selection? Is it a like a Warlock who can cherry pick his invocations off the Sorcerer/Wizard list by spending more money and crafting time?

Because if this is what you are saying the Trinket Mage does, then I could see it being cool. Limiting the variety of spells available by making you have to work and pay for them, but casting an unlimited amount of times per day. Run the risk of your trinkets being lost, stolen or sundered.

I'd play that.

Now, if you're spell selectioin is limited by how much money and time you invest, and you run the risk of your Trinkets being lost, stolen or sundered, without any advantagious return from the class that would make me want to play it over a different class, then I'd have no reason to play a Trinket Mage.


R.Tiger, you're a pretty smart guy so I'm not sure why you're having difficulty with this.


A wizard (on the whole) prepares spell in advance via a spellbook. He may have hundreds of spells in his spellbook, but at any given time he'll only have access to a few. Further, he must predetermine HOW MANY of each spell he'll need to cast. Even if he prepares Banish he'll still only have that single casting of banish.

A sorcerer on the other hand need not prepare spells in advance but only has access to a very small contingent of spells that is hard capped. She may not know more spells of a given level unless granted via feat or special prestige class feature. If a Sorc knows four spells in a given level she may never know more than those four.

The trinket mage combines these. The trinket mage may have access to hundreds of spells as the wizard, but he need not prepare them. The Trinket mage may cast any spell he has access to as a Sorcerer, but his spell list is not capped in the same fashion.

His only limitations are the wealth he wishes to devote to crafting these trinkets and the spell slots he has to power them per day.

Essentially the Trinket Mage is a wizard with unlimited spontaneous casting. To combat what is arguably incredibly potent spellcasting the Trinket Mage must spend much more wealth to attain his "spells" and he may lose those spells through destruction or other means.
 

Essentially the Trinket Mage is a wizard with unlimited spontaneous casting. To combat what is arguably incredibly potent spellcasting the Trinket Mage must spend much more wealth to attain his "spells" and he may lose those spells through destruction or other means.
So the advantage to this class is daily access to all spells available.

Ah...ok, I see how that's useful. I now finally see how that's potentially more powerful than the standard Wizard, even with the risks.

I'm not sure if it's enough of an advantage that I'd want to sink so much money into it however.

But I'm willing to leave my mind open for a class level by level writeup so I can test the character and costs.
 


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