Uncanny dodge = Immunity to feint?

[MeepoTheMighty]

Same with making a Balance check... Although when you are balacing, you are actually considered flat-footed (which is just slightly different terminology than "losing your Dex bonus to AC").

When you're flat-footed, you also can't make attacks of opportunity (unless you have Combat Reflexes).

 

[Storm Raven]

Then why would it also not work that way with Climbing, squeezing, and Feinting?

Because those are not Balance checks.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Then why would it also not work that way with Climbing, squeezing, and Feinting?

Because those "deny your Dex bonus to AC."

Balancing makes you "flat-footed."

Flat-footed is "Denied Dex Bonus to AC Plus."

 

[Hypersmurf]

Then why would it also not work that way with Climbing, squeezing, and Feinting?

You lose your Dex bonus to AC while climbing because you're climbing.
You lose your Dex bonus to AC while squeezing because you're squeezing.
You lose your Dex bonus to AC when feinted because you've been feinted.

You don't lose your Dex bonus to AC while balancing because you're balancing; rather, you lose your Dex bonus to AC while balancing because a balancing character is considered flat-footed, and when flat-footed, you lose Dex bonus to AC unless you have Uncanny Dodge.

Uncanny Dodge does not allow one to retain one's Dex bonus while climbing, or squeezing, or when feinted; it does allow it while flat-footed.

-Hyp.

 

[diaglo]

You lose your Dex bonus to AC while squeezing because you're squeezing.

and i know i read it somewhere but can't remember where... squeezing has another bad effect... maybe it was in one of the 2000ed adventures by WotC...


you get no reflex save for things like fireball or lightning bolt...

or maybe it was in the trap section of the DMG...

oh, how i hate my lousy memory.

 

[Infiniti2000]

and i know i read it somewhere but can't remember where... squeezing has another bad effect... maybe it was in one of the 2000ed adventures by WotC...

you get no reflex save for things like fireball or lightning bolt...

It's within the evasion ability where you read that. The line is specifically: "As with a Reflex save for any creature, a character must have room to move in order to evade. A bound character or one squeezing through an area cannot use evasion." Note that nothing says that being helpless or having a Dex of 0 means you cannot get a reflex save or use evasion. It's an oddity that as long as you are not bound or in a tight space, you're good to go.

 

[the Jester]

and i know i read it somewhere but can't remember where... squeezing has another bad effect... maybe it was in one of the 2000ed adventures by WotC...


you get no reflex save for things like fireball or lightning bolt...

Holy crap!! I never realized that...

 

[Hypersmurf]

It's within the evasion ability where you read that. The line is specifically: "As with a Reflex save for any creature, a character must have room to move in order to evade. A bound character or one squeezing through an area cannot use evasion." Note that nothing says that being helpless or having a Dex of 0 means you cannot get a reflex save or use evasion. It's an oddity that as long as you are not bound or in a tight space, you're good to go.

Well, if you're paralyzed, even a hundred feet of clear space is not sufficient room to allow you to move...

-Hyp.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Well, if you're paralyzed, even a hundred feet of clear space is not sufficient room to allow you to move...

Well, you can't move, true, but you have room to move. And that's all the little evasion loophole requires. So, knock out my rogue, paralyze her, or damage her Dex to 0, but for Olidamarra's sake, don't tie her up!

 

[Hypersmurf]

Well, you can't move, true, but you have room to move.

How can you tell?

The rogue is in a 1' tunnel. She can't move.
The rogue is in a 2.5' tunnel. She can't move.
The rogue is in a 5' tunnel. She can move. We know that 5' is 'room to move'.

The paralyzed rogue is in a 1' tunnel. She can't move.
The paralyzed rogue is in a 2.5' tunnel. She can't move.
The paralyzed rogue is in a 5' tunnel. She can't move.
The paralyzed rogue is in a 10' corridor. She can't move.
The paralyzed rogue is in a 20' corridor. She can't move.
The paralyzed rogue is in a 50' chamber. She can't move.

How do we know which of these is room to move? None of them, apparently, are sufficient room for her to be able to move; has she, then, room to move?

-Hyp.