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[overgeeked]

The end result is the same.

Depends on the writing. The actors are returning to keep the show on the air, that doesn't mean the writing will be repetitive and stale. We only have a brief leaked synopsis that may or may not be real. We'll find out in November.

But, on your side of the argument, whatever the problems of the Whittaker era, coming up with big new crazy ideas was not among them.

Yeah. Weirdly despite me not liking the writing of Chibnall's turn at the helm, weird and crazy new stuff wasn't the problem.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Weirdly despite me not liking the writing of Chibnall's turn at the helm, weird and crazy new stuff wasn't the problem.

The problem with folks like Grant Morrison is they make it look too easy. The crazy huge ideas aren't the hard part.

 

[overgeeked]

The problem with folks like Grant Morrison is they make it look too easy. The crazy huge ideas aren't the hard part.

I mean, it is easy for him. He just cribs from Alan Moore.

(That's a joke. Sort of.)

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I mean, it is easy for him. He just cribs from Alan Moore.

(That's a joke. Sort of.)

Oh, man, I have opinions on late 1980s/early 1990s comics. Even if Morrison's Vertigo stuff felt a lot like Moore's (not something I'm sure I would agree with), they run circles around Moore in terms of superhero ideas, from Zenith through DC One Million.

 

[Reynard]

Oh, man, I have opinions on late 1980s/early 1990s comics. Even if Morrison's Vertigo stuff felt a lot like Moore's (not something I'm sure I would agree with), they run circles around Moore in terms of superhero ideas, from Zenith through DC One Million.

Yeah, but then he went and made Final Crisis...

 

[overgeeked]

Oh, man, I have opinions on late 1980s/early 1990s comics. Even if Morrison's Vertigo stuff felt a lot like Moore's (not something I'm sure I would agree with), they run circles around Moore in terms of superhero ideas, from Zenith through DC One Million.

Fair. Alan Moore seems more like the "I'm an artiste" type and is holding his nose a lot doing comics whereas Grant Morrison seems more like the fanboy who's dream job was to be hired to write comics.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Yeah, but then he went and made Final Crisis...

Yeah, I'm not defending any of the crises that occured after the mid-1990s (especially not Identity Crisis), although I did like the story that, however briefly, brought the old LSH back into continuity.

 

[Reynard]

Fair. Alan Moore seems more like the "I'm an artiste" type and is holding his nose a lot doing comics

That's Ellis. Moore just hates large entertainment conglomerates butchering his work.

 

[Lanefan]

Sort of. That doesn't quite get to what I'd call a story. For example, if the only thing you need is the same characters across multiple situations then a literally endless string of random encounters would make a story. To me it doesn't. That's a whole lot of isolated scenes with the same characters, a series of vignettes maybe, but not a story.

Nah.

The story of the Montreal Canadiens is made up of one isolated hockey game after another (which map to "random encounters" in an RPG), over a span of decades and involving/including a whole lot of individual players, coaches, and so on (which map to PCs in an RPG) who have come and gone over that time.

No-one in the moment is trying, during the third period of a 3-2 game in Boston, to tell a story. Instead, they're just trying to win that game in the here and now. And yet a story still emerges later, be it of that game or of that season or of the franchise as a whole.

 

[Lanefan]

Counterpoint: Doctor Who. It regularly gives canon and continuity the two-finger salute.

And becomes immensely annoying, never mind confusing, when it does so.