Update: Malhavoc PDFs no longer available at RPGnow (merged)

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Funksaw said:
Actually, Rushlight, the Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 1998 makes breaking the DRM even on products you own illegal.

That law criminalizes not only the *act* of breaking the DRM or any other encryption designed to enforce copyright, but also criminalizes the ownership of any tools which may do so.

It's a bad law - according to the DMCA, ownership of a sharpie marker (which can be used to circumvent copyright protection on a protected CD) is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

The shift key on your computer is also a DRM circumvention tool, versus DRMed pseudo-CDs. And just as illegal. We can probably get in trouble for telling people these things, actually.
 

Funksaw said:
...but also criminalizes the ownership of any tools which may do so.

I guess all of us with Mac OS X is a criminal then, since that's all that's needed to crack this DRM.
 

Dimwhit said:
I guess all of us with Mac OS X is a criminal then, since that's all that's needed to crack this DRM.

Sadly, it would be accurate. One of the reasons I get so hot under the collar over copyright law is because every man woman and child in the United States has done *something* which can be considered against the law. Instead of having "political crimes" a theoretical tyrannical government could simply selectively enforce the laws on the books to lock up and silence political dissenters.
 


Berandor said:
What? How? Huh?

Mac-User here, with DRM, without understanding.

In a nutshell:

The DMCA makes possession of any technology which can bypass copyright protection schemes (like Adobe DRM) illegal and punishable by up to 10 years in jail.

Macintosh OSX has an ability to bypass the copyright protection scheme built into the operating system.

Therefore, ownership of MacOSX is illegal.
 

Confession....

I am guilty of PDF "piracy" by downloading from P2P networks.

*sob* I am so ashamed...

...not.

Frankly, I do download PDFs for free. I also download scanned PDFs of print-only material. If you want to personally attack me, let me know and I will post my email address and we can go over this off-thread. I'll be more than happy to go into a flame-fest with you.

I admit it: I am a thief.

But you know what? (Of course, judging from previous posts, those of you who would actually email me probably won't read this far into my post.) I read the PDFs, and if I like them, I buy the print copies. The ones I don't like, I delete. Why do I buy print copies? Because I hate having to try to find information in a PDF (and I own the full copy of Adobe Acrobat, by the way, legally and unregistered through my own choice), and I cannot afford the ink to print a crappy copy of a 100 - 300+ page PDF. I burn the PDF copies I keep onto CD and take them to work with me, either to print relevant pages or to work on something during lunch (and I pay my company when I print things using their printers). I can't do that with DRM. Why? Because I can't activate Adobe on my work computer.

So, should I absolutely need to buy something on DriveThruRPG, I will buy and crack to remove the problems I have. Not that I am at all likely to purchase anything there (see below).

Why do I pirate PDFs? To judge whether or not I wish to purchase the book in print format. My FLGS doesn't carry many 3rd party books, so I cannot go there and read them to determine if I like them enough to purchase them - and no offense to all you reviews out there, but I like to make my own decisions and not relay on someone else's opinion.

Frankly, I am unhappy at the DRM issue, and am unhappy with DriveThruRPG. I have been to their site, and read their FAQ. It has calmed my major worries about portability; however, it has raised many more. How secure is their site? Why am I not seeing a Verisign (or other internet security) logo? Or a privacy statement? What will they do with my credit card should I purchase anything? How protected are they from hackers?

Frankly, I will continue to download pirated copies of PDFs, and purchase those rare few that I do purchase in PDF format from RPGnow, a company I would much rather give my money to for many reasons, one of which being security issues and their tie with ENworld (or at least that being where ENpublishing products are sold).

I have another revelation for you: I've *gasp* photocopied pages from my print books for my friends. I don't deny it. Email me and I will send you my address so you can call the copyright cops.

Face it: 90% of us has broken copyright laws at one time or another. We're all thieves.
 

Funksaw said:
In a nutshell:

The DMCA makes possession of any technology which can bypass copyright protection schemes (like Adobe DRM) illegal and punishable by up to 10 years in jail.

Macintosh OSX has an ability to bypass the copyright protection scheme built into the operating system.

Therefore, ownership of MacOSX is illegal.
Ooohhh! I sooo hope they sue Apple! That'll be fun! :)
 

Funksaw said:
Sadly, it would be accurate. One of the reasons I get so hot under the collar over copyright law is because every man woman and child in the United States has done *something* which can be considered against the law. Instead of having "political crimes" a theoretical tyrannical government could simply selectively enforce the laws on the books to lock up and silence political dissenters.


You mean like the justice department and Greenpeace a few months ago?
 

Brown Jenkin said:
I'm not going to punish Monte by not purchacing print products for his Line of Sight article.

Neither will I, but I still won't touch DriveByRPG with an Iconic 10' pole.

I hope they keep on publish real books, though. The physical kind you can keep forever, lend to friends and resell if you tire of them.
 

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