Use Magical Device
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Tarril Wolfeye
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Well, he could use divine items, for example Scrolls and Wands of Cure Light Wounds.
He could also try to use items that his alignment disallows.
He could also try to use items that his alignment disallows.
Squire James
Explorer
In the particular case of wands, the DC is 20. Your target should be +10 Use Device, so you can take 10 and succeed (I'm thinking cure wounds wands here for the most part, which will probably be used out-of-combat). You really only need higher skill for scrolls and faking race/alignment (which I rarely feel the need to do).
If you had the luck/foresight enough to have an 18 Charisma, you can have a +8 in Use Device as a level 1 rogue. That other +2 can be obtained by (1) 2 more levels of rogue - level 3 is a good breakpoint for multi-classed rogues, (2) somehow obtain a +4 Cloak of Charisma, or (3) Skill Focus. The first option's probably the best... you probably want to do something else with your feats and (2) is probably out of your price range. If you're not worried about eventually casting 9th level spells, you can even take more rogue levels to make up the difference before it hits +10.
I think something (or exactly) like this was in a Dragon magazine as a "Power Play". You really need the Charisma for it to work, though.
If you had the luck/foresight enough to have an 18 Charisma, you can have a +8 in Use Device as a level 1 rogue. That other +2 can be obtained by (1) 2 more levels of rogue - level 3 is a good breakpoint for multi-classed rogues, (2) somehow obtain a +4 Cloak of Charisma, or (3) Skill Focus. The first option's probably the best... you probably want to do something else with your feats and (2) is probably out of your price range. If you're not worried about eventually casting 9th level spells, you can even take more rogue levels to make up the difference before it hits +10.
I think something (or exactly) like this was in a Dragon magazine as a "Power Play". You really need the Charisma for it to work, though.
Mustrum_Ridcully
Legend
A Circle of Persuasion is also a good idea.
But be aware that you can`t take 10 on Use Magic Device Checks.
But the ability to use wands of Cure Lights can be very useful if no one else in the group can do this...
Mustrum Ridcully
But be aware that you can`t take 10 on Use Magic Device Checks.
But the ability to use wands of Cure Lights can be very useful if no one else in the group can do this...
Mustrum Ridcully
Why can't you take 10?
Taking ten just means you do average nmothing special. I know there are negative affects from rolling bad that only keeps youfrom taking 20 on use maghic device.
I have a 4/6 fighter/rogue with a +16 use magic device. (+5 magic item, +2 charisma, +9 ranks which I think is maxed for this exclusive skill) And I get +2 for scrolls for decipher script.)
I can operate indepedently with a bunch of scrolls and wands if neccessary. I self buff and such since I tend to operate as an independent scout way up front of the party.
I also handle lots of the utility stuff etc. Meaning spells that are not normally memorized or chosen by Sorc.
It is a highly effective skill. After a rogue hits about 5th level or so.
Taking ten just means you do average nmothing special. I know there are negative affects from rolling bad that only keeps youfrom taking 20 on use maghic device.
I have a 4/6 fighter/rogue with a +16 use magic device. (+5 magic item, +2 charisma, +9 ranks which I think is maxed for this exclusive skill) And I get +2 for scrolls for decipher script.)
I can operate indepedently with a bunch of scrolls and wands if neccessary. I self buff and such since I tend to operate as an independent scout way up front of the party.
I also handle lots of the utility stuff etc. Meaning spells that are not normally memorized or chosen by Sorc.
It is a highly effective skill. After a rogue hits about 5th level or so.
Geoff Watson
First Post
Shallown said:
The rules say you can't.
+10 is still a good mark to aim for, as it avoids the chance for mishaps on DC 20 checks.
Geoff.
Mustrum_Ridcully
Legend
It is also a good aim because it is easier to calculate than +11, +8 or something like that
evileeyore
Mrrrph
Shallown said:
Under the special rules page 76 PHB:
"Special: You cannot take 10 with this skill. Magic is too unpredictable for you to use this skill reliably."
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