D&D (2024) Using AI for Your Home Game

[ezo]

I've tried using AI to generate battle maps. But I can rarely even it get to give me a real top-down view. They are almost always isometric or perspective even when I ask for top town. I've also found AI to be very poor at trying to do specific things, like "create a top-down battlemap of an exploration site with ten tents and several pieces of equipment" Where I will get something with hundreds of buildings and an airport.

Here's a bunch I just made. Most don't give you the "true" top-down view, but a couple do and some others are very close. They are probably "larger" than what you might have been going for, but IME such maps are "close enough" to work for a game.



Now, if this was for a commercial product, I might generate these with AI to hand over to a digital artist who does battle maps in a style I like and have them make something for the product.

But yeah, for personal game use--nothing wrong with this IMO.

 

[ezo]

Something has gone seriously wrong when people are asking third parties to do it for them.

Considering how many groups have used modules in the past and published adventures in 5E, I think there is something very seriously right going on.

You might as well tell people who enjoy reading to not be so lazy and write their own novels.

 

[Not a Decepticon]

Even if this were true, it would not make my argument wrong.

This is not an argument, just denial.

there are plenty of highly creative people who stole or steal things

The way plagiarism is universally treated with scorn tells a different story.

not that what you are describing is truely stealing anyway.

Keep telling yourself that.

What have I said to vilify you?

"people like you" does not mean "you". I overal meant people who support Ai, vast majority of whom act like entitled bullies with vengeance against people posessing any creative skill, not you in particular.

Saying you have no respect for people or making allegations they "stole" something does not make you right.

So how do you resolve this logic with your other statements?

I run published campaigns .... and I run my own adventures ..... and I use AI.

If there is actual work that goes into running published modules and I am being creative when I do that, then it necessarily makes your other statement that "A DM who resorts to using AI is by definition never a creative DM." untrue.

Either I am creative or I am not, you can't have it both ways.

Strawman argument - you twist my point from "Using AI is a sign of lack of creativity" into "someone who uses AI even once is not creative, never was creative and never will be creative", which are completely different points. I beleive you once were a creative person. The moment you use Ai, you reject your creativity in favor of being lazy.

AI art helps me tremendously and I am not a greedy CEO.

Helps you running subpar, uninspired games, maybe.

Yeah, the thing is, the luddites were right.

And people laughed at them and vilified them and told them they're wrong, only history vindicated them. Who is to say history won't vindicate us, who oppose the plagiarismbot 3000?

Yes they were right about their jobs .... and yet society is better off with manufactured clothing then we were before. Further most of their descendants in modern England are much better off than they were some 150 years ago or so.

The technology they despised and in fact destroyed enabled the upward mobility that made white English people some of the wealthiest people in the world by the start of the 20th century.

You do realize how naughty word evil thing you just said? You went out and said it's a good thing that people lost their jobs, ended on the street, freezing and starving, because in long run it gave us our era of abundance. Yikes, buddy. Such a vile, entitled, selfish thing to say.

 

[LordEntrails]

Gorice is the only person to make good point in this entire thread.

So you admit you haven't made any good points in this thread. We agree on that.

 

[LordEntrails]

Now, if this was for a commercial product, I might generate these with AI to hand over to a digital artist who does battle maps in a style I like and have them make something for the product.

Thanks for those.
If it were one of my few commercial products I would create the map myself with CC3+. But as you say, something "good enough" is often good enough. And good enough in 5 minutes for something "good enough" I make in 4 hours with CC3+... AI is my choice.

 

[Not a Decepticon]

So you admit you haven't made any good points in this thread. We agree on that.

Only if we agree you haven't made one either.

 

[ezo]

Thanks for those.
If it were one of my few commercial products I would create the map myself with CC3+. But as you say, something "good enough" is often good enough. And good enough in 5 minutes for something "good enough" I make in 4 hours with CC3+... AI is my choice.

I started out on CC-Dos back in '95 or '96. I remember when it took like 5 minutes to redraw a map and when I got a math-coprocessor it did it in like 10 seconds! Since then, I've used CCx for years since then, but now I work with Wonderdraft and Dungeondraft or full editing software like Photoshop or Illustrator.

Mostly, I prefer to spend my creative time working on the campaign world map, and use AI for maps like those above, etc.

 

[ECMO3]

Did you post it to the DALLE-3 thread?

No, but I can. I will try to do that later tonight or tomorrow.

 

[LordEntrails]

Only if we agree you haven't made one either.

Not the way it works. But how about rather than you derailing a thread, how about you stay on topic? And if you don't have anything to add to the topic, then you don't post in the thread?

 

[ECMO3]

Is it though?

Yes. I wear clothing built in modern textile mills, and even if you are getting a tailor to custom make all your clothes they are still using fabrics manufactured in modern textile mills.

And look where that has gotten us.

Who do you mean by "us"? If you are talking about the descendants of the luddites, it got them a lot better off. They aren't literally dieing of scurvy and malnutrition and they are not being worked to death 100 hours a week deseeding cotton.