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[Agamon]

I was at first somewhat upset that 3.5 was released to some earlier than most people were able to get it. Now, I'm quite pleased for that fact. I was going to buy the 3.5 books as soon as they were released, but now that we've been able to see what's changed (rather than the conjecture there's been the past few months), I believe the best route for me is to get the SRD and pull the few rules that are good out of that and make them house rules.

I originally tought that a lot of the changes were ignorable if you didn't like them. But I've come to realize that the changes are far larger in scope and much more fundimental to do that easily.

I was happy right off the bat with the idea of 3E. It was a whole new game and I was prepared to embrace it wholesale. I look forward to 4E for the same reasons. But, after seeing what's been done with 3.5, changing the game so much without making a new game, I'm not happy with it.

Anyone else going to say 'screw the books', but still use some of the better changes as house rules?

 

[Planesdragon]

Yep.

I'm likely not going to buy the 3.5 PH. I may pick up the 3.5 MM and DMG--but then again, I might not. (The DMG is most likely.)

My answer would be different if the OGL was in the books and not on the web with the SRD--but WotC picked their stance, and I'm just acting accordingly.

 

[Aitch Eye]

The breadth of the changes isn't so much an issue for us -- since we still haven't gotten around to converting our 1e game, and the 3e game just got to second level -- but the group as a whole really doesn't want to buy new books. Our games are nonstandard enough already that we're not concerned about using all the changes.

I'm just going to put together an OGL-compliant player's book for the conversion of the 1e game, which will include our house rules and some third party stuff. It'll probably work better for us a reference, though not as nice as a real rule book for learning the game.

With the current 3e game, we'll be using the new classes, but beyond that it will fairly haphazard what gets in.

 

[EricNoah]

Personally I'm waiting for the 3.141597... etc. version of "Orc & Pi."

 

[Azure Trance]

Personally I'm waiting for the 3.141597... etc. version of "Orc & Pi."

Oooh, that stunk.

 

[Henry]

I'm just sorry they didn't call it version 3.14159265358979...

Then we coulda called it Pi E...

 

[Henry]

To stop following in my illustrious leader'f footsteps, I'm already doing some of what you suggested.

Three weeks ago, I used DR 5/crushing on some baneguards in our forgotten realms game... Players didn't note a damned thing.

Tonight, I used a psionically endowed grizzly bear that was 10x10 feet in size... and the players didn't bat an eye.

I keep slipping a few things in here and there, where the players won't notice it, just to see if someone actually says anything. They probably won't until they get the books. Or if my Buddy Torm accidentally reads this thread...

 

[Krug]

To stop following in my illustrious leader'f footsteps, I'm already doing some of what you suggested.

Three weeks ago, I used DR 5/crushing on some baneguards in our forgotten realms game... Players didn't note a damned thing.

Tonight, I used a psionically endowed grizzly bear that was 10x10 feet in size... and the players didn't bat an eye.

I keep slipping a few things in here and there, where the players won't notice it, just to see if someone actually says anything. They probably won't until they get the books. Or if my Buddy Torm accidentally reads this thread...

No one cast a Bull's Strength or Cat's Grace yet?

 

[Gnarlo]

I'm gonna run the 3.666 version when I start my next campaign with the Freeport series.

 

[Henry]

No one cast a Bull's Strength or Cat's Grace yet?

No, I haven't messed with those - only the things that the mechanics are "hidden" for.

Y'see, we agreed not to make it a 3.5e game, because we started it as a 3e game. I'm not altering their characters in the slightest, nor asking them to. However, I'm slipping in some choice mechanics here and there and seeing how they work. So far, they are working well, and for all the players know, they're just variant monsters - which they sorta are.

So far, it's been smotth enough to not make a difference. But when tonight's Psionic Grizzly Bears sporting claws of the Bear, Schism, and Astral Construct III came crashing through, it gave them enough to worry about without them noticing exactly how many squares the bears took up.