CRGreathouse
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Wulf Ratbane said:I don't know why anyone would go through the process of using UK's system with modifiers for everything down to the last detail, and then for a minute pretend that ability scores don't matter. That is a design consideration made for a crowd of folks who aren't going to care for this level of exacting detail in the first place.
If you are going to be precise, BE PRECISE.
I think I understand UK -- and if I do, I should be able to translate. I'll try to keep my own viewpoint out of this (at least for now).
Monsters have high ability modifiers (outside of size modifiers), but those modifiers just put them on par with unmodified (or barely modified) PC stats, since PC stats are much higher (elite array, 4d6 drop lowest, etc.). The only time that scores really matter is when they're combined with the elite array (or other method of making the stats higher).
Thus, the troll with Str 23 has typical strength (after taking its size into account) for a PC fighter. If a PC fighter was a troll, though, they would have their Str score, in addition to the troll's +12, so it needs to be included.
Is that fair, UK? Is that what you're saying? If not, would you explain -- because at least 3 of us would be confused if it was.