D&D 5E Vecna new art was a collaboration with Stranger Things!

darjr

I crit!
Vecna new art was in fact a Stranger Things collaboration. I can’t wait to find out more.

Vecna
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When Season 4 of Stranger Things started production Wizards wanted to give an update to Vecna. The show ultimately took a different route that worked for the setting, but we were able to finalize some new visual canon for D&D. More to come tomorrow :)


 

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Parmandur

Book-Friend
Tomorrow, wonder what's happening tomorrow
Well, tonight they are airing a streaming actual play called "Shadow of Vecna, Part 1." Tomorrow, the D&D Dragon talk podcast is dropping, and the MtG Weekly Update video is airing. It is very possible that Vecna is going to be a card in the next Magic Set again, since this artist is the Art Director for Magic: the Gathering and not D&D.

Maybe they are going to do a Secret Lairs drop for Magic to take advantage of the Stranger Things Season hitting.
 


Stormonu

Legend
I’m not surprised, D&D is a pastiche of pop culture for its time (the picture of the werewolf back in 1E is the Lon Chaney version compared to the “Howling” version that rose during the 2E era, and look how much Vampires have changed away from the Bella Lugosi version of the ‘70s).
 


Yaarel

Mind Mage
Is this seasons Stranger Things the origin story for D&D Vecna?

There is a bit of a paradox. On the one hand, the kids already know who Vecna is from playing D&D. On the other hand, the villain is implied to be Vecna.

Maybe the villain is more nicknamed "Vecna", after the D&D character.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Is this seasons Stranger Things the origin story for D&D Vecna?

It sure doesn't seem like it so far.

Maybe the villain is more nicknamed "Vecna", after the D&D character.

It is the name Dustin gives the monster, like they've named the monsters in previous seasons after D&D monsters - the Demogorgon, the Mind Flayer, and now Vecna.
 

Dausuul

Legend
Well, tonight they are airing a streaming actual play called "Shadow of Vecna, Part 1." Tomorrow, the D&D Dragon talk podcast is dropping, and the MtG Weekly Update video is airing. It is very possible that Vecna is going to be a card in the next Magic Set again, since this artist is the Art Director for Magic: the Gathering and not D&D.

Maybe they are going to do a Secret Lairs drop for Magic to take advantage of the Stranger Things Season hitting.
Sad to say, there's no Vecna card in the Baldur's Gate set, and I can't see where he'd fall into any of the other upcoming sets. Still, a Secret Lair is always possible. I really wanted a Vecna commander in AFR, and was sad when he turned out to be a token creature requiring a janky three-card combo.

Is this seasons Stranger Things the origin story for D&D Vecna?

There is a bit of a paradox. On the one hand, the kids already know who Vecna is from playing D&D. On the other hand, the villain is implied to be Vecna.

Maybe the villain is more nicknamed "Vecna", after the D&D character.
It's just a nickname--the kids taking a D&D monster name and applying it to the villain they're facing. The resemblance to D&D Vecna is quite limited. He's got both hands, and either both eyes or no eyes (the prosthetics make it hard to tell), and while he has a cadaverous appearance, he isn't actually undead.

But I'm holding out hope that when he's defeated, he'll leave behind a severed hand and/or eye.
 


Dausuul

Legend
The severing of the hand and eye of Vecna comes later in his life. It wouldnt be part of an origin story.
That all depends on where you're standing.

Typically, if Vecna makes an appearance as a villain, it's hundreds or thousands of years after his downfall. An origin story in such an adventure would certainly conclude with Kas's betrayal and the severing of the Hand and Eye; that explains how Vecna came to be... whatever the writer has decided he is at this point (god / demigod / god wannabe / spirit possessing the wielder of his artifacts / reconstituted lich / demilich / ???).

Now, if you were going to have a story set in the past when Vecna's empire was at its height, and Kas's betrayal had yet to take place, you would obviously push the origin story farther back. It would probably conclude with his transition to lichdom.
 

Yaarel

Mind Mage
That all depends on where you're standing.

Typically, if Vecna makes an appearance as a villain, it's hundreds or thousands of years after his downfall. An origin story in such an adventure would certainly conclude with Kas's betrayal and the severing of the Hand and Eye; that explains how Vecna came to be... whatever the writer has decided he is at this point (god / demigod / god wannabe / spirit possessing the wielder of his artifacts / reconstituted lich / demilich / ???).

Now, if you were going to have a story set in the past when Vecna's empire was at its height, and Kas's betrayal had yet to take place, you would obviously push the origin story farther back. It would probably conclude with his transition to lichdom.
An actual Vecna origin story would require the Stranger Things universe to be part of the D&D multiverse. Possibly, there might be time travel involved. Also possibly, the Stranger D&D game could have been first, and the villain adopted the Vecna identity, when entering the upside-down universe (shadowfell? ethereal plane? astral plane?) − and from there entered other planes in the multiverse.
 

Dausuul

Legend
An actual Vecna origin story would require the Stranger Things universe to be part of the D&D multiverse. Possibly, there might be time travel involved. Also possibly, the Stranger D&D game could have been first, and the villain adopted the Vecna identity, when entering the upside-down universe (astral plane? shadowfell?) − and from there entered other planes in the multiverse.
I can't imagine that they would use Stranger Things as an explicit, canonical origin for D&D Vecna. That would provoke a ton of fan backlash (and rightfully so IMO) for little benefit.

I could see them adding elements to Vecna's history that were inspired by the events of the show, perhaps.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Is this seasons Stranger Things the origin story for D&D Vecna?

There is a bit of a paradox. On the one hand, the kids already know who Vecna is from playing D&D. On the other hand, the villain is implied to be Vecna.

Maybe the villain is more nicknamed "Vecna", after the D&D character.
No, it's a codename based off of Vecna showing up in their D&D game.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Sad to say, there's no Vecna card in the Baldur's Gate set, and I can't see where he'd fall into any of the other upcoming sets. Still, a Secret Lair is always possible. I really wanted a Vecna commander in AFR, and was sad when he turned out to be a token creature requiring a janky three-card combo.
I think a Vecna themed Secret Lair would make a lot of sense from a marketing perspective.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
An actual Vecna origin story would require the Stranger Things universe to be part of the D&D multiverse. Possibly, there might be time travel involved. Also possibly, the Stranger D&D game could have been first, and the villain adopted the Vecna identity, when entering the upside-down universe (shadowfell? ethereal plane? astral plane?) − and from there entered other planes in the multiverse.
It is part of the D&D multiverse. Stranger Things has MTG cards, and MTG settings are in the D&D multiverse. Therefore, the Stranger Things is in the D&D Multiverse. :p
 

Yaarel

Mind Mage
It is part of the D&D multiverse. Stranger Things has MTG cards, and MTG settings are in the D&D multiverse. Therefore, the Stranger Things is in the D&D Multiverse. :p
Also, the D&D Stranger Things starter set (which I havent read personally) seems would imply that Stranger Things is part of the D&D multiverse.
 

Yaarel

Mind Mage
Personally, I would love a Strangers Things campaign setting! It is modern, even anachronistically near-future via hi-tech marvels,

and is psi-centric!
 


It's just a nickname--the kids taking a D&D monster name and applying it to the villain they're facing. The resemblance to D&D Vecna is quite limited. He's got both hands, and either both eyes or no eyes (the prosthetics make it hard to tell), and while he has a cadaverous appearance, he isn't actually undead.
I'm still annoyed that the creature that Stranger Things named after D&D's Demogorgon is now what everybody not into D&D thinks of when they hear his name. At least this new creature kinda looks a bit like a weird take on a lich.
 

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