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Vegetarians and the Single Man
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I'm A Banana
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My girlfriend is a vegetarian. But she's also a mound of processed hamburger meat shaped into a vaguely feminine form, and given a wig. She smells a bit, but she's got a heart of gold.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to shoo the flies off of my lover....with their prying eyes and their touchy feelers and their diseases....not on my precious...not on my own....my love....my meat woman.....
<-is not creepy for hugging a vaguely feminine mound of meat....
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to shoo the flies off of my lover....with their prying eyes and their touchy feelers and their diseases....not on my precious...not on my own....my love....my meat woman.....
<-is not creepy for hugging a vaguely feminine mound of meat....
Skade
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<not creeped out noty creeped out...>
All of the links have been very helpful in researching this. I will say she has not been very good at doing the whole vegetarian thing so far at all. I don't find this too discouraging however, as I was hoping she would not start in earnest until she knew a little more. She does have a tendency to go for faddish diets, unlike me who eats whatever comes in front of me (with some effort to have the various nutrients, protiens and the like in some semi regular fashion). I personally hate the whole Atkins diet, being well and addicted to my carbs (mmm manicotti), and her decision to go vegetarian was just because she has image problems I think. Very complex ones, I might add.
That's a whole other thread though. I'll just say I agree completely that her decision may not be based on the best reasons. That is why I have been doing my best to reseacrh and present her with options, and hopefully get her to eat more than she is.
Is there anything I should know about the effects of alchohol with a vegetarian diet? She drinks fairly often, and I don't know if this is a concern. (aside from the fact that alchohol is a whole lot of excess calories
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All of the links have been very helpful in researching this. I will say she has not been very good at doing the whole vegetarian thing so far at all. I don't find this too discouraging however, as I was hoping she would not start in earnest until she knew a little more. She does have a tendency to go for faddish diets, unlike me who eats whatever comes in front of me (with some effort to have the various nutrients, protiens and the like in some semi regular fashion). I personally hate the whole Atkins diet, being well and addicted to my carbs (mmm manicotti), and her decision to go vegetarian was just because she has image problems I think. Very complex ones, I might add.
That's a whole other thread though. I'll just say I agree completely that her decision may not be based on the best reasons. That is why I have been doing my best to reseacrh and present her with options, and hopefully get her to eat more than she is.
Is there anything I should know about the effects of alchohol with a vegetarian diet? She drinks fairly often, and I don't know if this is a concern. (aside from the fact that alchohol is a whole lot of excess calories
)
Xeriar
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Skade said:Is there anything I should know about the effects of alchohol with a vegetarian diet? She drinks fairly often, and I don't know if this is a concern. (aside from the fact that alchohol is a whole lot of excess calories
You mentioned earlier that she tries the low carb deal - she better be getting plenty of water. Not OJ, milk or pop, water.
Lack of water causes headaches and all sorts of problems, and low-carb diets, while making for more attractive bodies, need more hydration (especially for men who face higher risks of kidney stones).
Dirigible
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<Shakes head> Things were so much simpler when instead of thinking about what we ate we went out, beat it to death* with a rock and ate it.
Plus, we were all naked. Bonus!
* Even the plants. Especially the plants. Seriously, man, there were some really nasty rutabegas in the neolithic. Take your arm off as soon as look at you.
Plus, we were all naked. Bonus!
* Even the plants. Especially the plants. Seriously, man, there were some really nasty rutabegas in the neolithic. Take your arm off as soon as look at you.
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One thing often neglected by people making the innitial switch to becomming a vegatarian (or vegan, or purist, or whatever) is that the easiest form of digestible minerals vitamins come from uncooked fruits and vegetables. For the 'optimal' (note that there is not such thing since dietary requirements vary for each person over the course of a day, week, year, lifetime) diet, you should only eat a small amount of cooked foods each day (perhaps 15%-25% of your dinner or less). Bannannannannas cannot be stressed as a good multi-vitamin, along with several glasses of carrot juice each day. Staying away from your three whites is perhaps the best thing to look at as far as what not to do: white sugar (bleached and processed to a nearly non digestable state), white flour (bleached out most major sources of vitamins from the grain), and white fats (meaning animal fats from meats, poultry, fish, some butters).
BTW, as a previous posters commented, ditching the diet after a few months can have some very negative effects for a lot longer than just a few days on the jon. You effectively alter the levels of probiotics in your intestinal tract. These probiotics aid in reclaiming digestive and bodily fluids and the kinds that feed off meat by products are very difficult to get back up to normal levels (in that it could take a year or so for them to attain standard levels). During that time or adjustment, you may feel sick often with minor flue-like symptoms since your digestive track is in a whack.
(Edit): BTW, changes in ones diet ultimately effect no one but yourself. Make sure that if you want to alter your diet, its because you want to better yourself and not make some kind of privatized and localized message that somehow you hope will reach the world over. Sorry to say, but it won't. Make sure that your gf understands this since its her health she's ultimately playing, harm to which is not worth the minor message of "save the fill in the blank".
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Err . . . that depends on who your looking at. Bodacious member of the opposite sex? Yeah! Bonus galore! 50 year old hick with more body hair than the missing link? I'll take civilized life for 100.
BTW, as a previous posters commented, ditching the diet after a few months can have some very negative effects for a lot longer than just a few days on the jon. You effectively alter the levels of probiotics in your intestinal tract. These probiotics aid in reclaiming digestive and bodily fluids and the kinds that feed off meat by products are very difficult to get back up to normal levels (in that it could take a year or so for them to attain standard levels). During that time or adjustment, you may feel sick often with minor flue-like symptoms since your digestive track is in a whack.
(Edit): BTW, changes in ones diet ultimately effect no one but yourself. Make sure that if you want to alter your diet, its because you want to better yourself and not make some kind of privatized and localized message that somehow you hope will reach the world over. Sorry to say, but it won't. Make sure that your gf understands this since its her health she's ultimately playing, harm to which is not worth the minor message of "save the fill in the blank".
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Err . . . that depends on who your looking at. Bodacious member of the opposite sex? Yeah! Bonus galore! 50 year old hick with more body hair than the missing link? I'll take civilized life for 100.
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Skade
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Not nearly enough.Xeriar said:
The more I think about her dietary habits the more I get confused. From my research, my diet is much more well rounded, and provides me with adequete nutrition. I, however, am a little overweight (no cholesterol or blood pressure problems though). There are outisde factors in this such as working nights, and having odd eating schedules, and a back injury that limited my activity for a year. She is tiny, generally considered quite attractive, but I'll probably live longer than her!
Note that most of the 'a-typical' attractive women in American culture (assuming that your gf has a similar stature) are underweight, which is fine in youth, but not if the trend continues on into middle age. Being underweight can have some severe effects on the body just as being overweight can. For piece of mind, a simple call to a physician can get you a rough guess as to your normal weight parameters based on height, build, race, and age (dissmiss any physician that does not take hereditary nationality into consideration since, and no this is not racist, but not all people are physically the same).
Buttercup
Princess of Florin
Skade, eating disorders and body image problems are serious and common problems for women in the US who are between roughly 14 and 26 years of age. Your girlfriend's eating habits that eliminate whole food groups, combined with high consumption of alcohol and low water consumption aren't a good thing, and should possibly set off warning bells. (I am not a physician, but her diet is clearly not healthy.)
I would suggest that you strongly encourage her to visit a nutritionist.
Also, as Mach2.5 said, different ethnic groups have different ideal weights, mostly because some groups tend to have denser bones than others.
I would suggest that you strongly encourage her to visit a nutritionist.
Also, as Mach2.5 said, different ethnic groups have different ideal weights, mostly because some groups tend to have denser bones than others.
Skade
Explorer
According to my doctor with my build and muscle mass I should weigh in at 220. I currently weigh 245. Its not terrible, but it is going to go away
I don't belive she is underweight, or if so not significantly. She weighs 104 lbs, on a slim frame at 5'1". She is naturally quite small. Her highest weight was 112 which was in High School when playing tennis, and these 8 pounds were muscle I would gather from the photos.
As you can see, whatever she is thinking, its not weight loss she should have a problem with.
Edit: Buttercup, the bells have been ringing for awhile now. This is one of the reasons I wanted some advice on recipes and menus. Knowing this board, I was hoping it would bring up all of my other concerns and I could get some good points to research and study on the subject. It has done this admirably. I've spoken to her quite abit about her image problems, and I think she will someday make it past them. She is not interested in seeing either a nutitionist or a therapist, so I get to play dietician, and therapist is built into the relationship I think.
I don't belive she is underweight, or if so not significantly. She weighs 104 lbs, on a slim frame at 5'1". She is naturally quite small. Her highest weight was 112 which was in High School when playing tennis, and these 8 pounds were muscle I would gather from the photos.
As you can see, whatever she is thinking, its not weight loss she should have a problem with.
Edit: Buttercup, the bells have been ringing for awhile now. This is one of the reasons I wanted some advice on recipes and menus. Knowing this board, I was hoping it would bring up all of my other concerns and I could get some good points to research and study on the subject. It has done this admirably. I've spoken to her quite abit about her image problems, and I think she will someday make it past them. She is not interested in seeing either a nutitionist or a therapist, so I get to play dietician, and therapist is built into the relationship I think.
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