VERY Happy About "Gaming Action" Forum UNConsolidation

[Seonaid]

[hijack]Thanks a lot for being so accomodating about the "Who's Online" bit. I appreciate it![/hijack]

 

[reapersaurus]

If it's such a problem and such a big deal about the forum, why have only 29 people replied to this thread?

Now, if ENWorld had say 30-40, maybe 50 members only, and 29 replied to this thread (and most were against the forum move), ya might have something.

Don't you think that this approach is a bit unrealistic?

So 7,222 members have to post to this thread (just over half of 14,442) to get the Admins to fix a mistake?
I would think it was common sense not to have as popular of Forum as Talking the Talk omitted from the front page.

Just because most have not gone out of their way to mention/complain/constructively criticise in this thread, it shouldn't be assumed that they like the change.
I realistically would estimate that over half don't like HAVING to make that one extra click off the front page. Who likes making an un-needed click? It's not The End of the Boards, but it is an obvious inconvenience.

Again, until the Private Forums are consolidated on the front page, there's no business inconveniencing so many people.

I trust that the Admins (thx for the clarification, Darkness) don't need a mob assembled to see a (superficially) simple situation.

 

[jdavis]

well if we all have to chime in on this one then I'd point out I didn't realize it was that popular (or even existed for that matter......) What is it and why should I care that it takes a extra click to get there? I can understand why people may want to talk about this but why would anybody loose sleep over it? They have been talking about moving things around for a while now, this wasn't all that big a shock, and it's not anything to get huffy about.

 

[Grazzt]

Don't you think that this approach is a bit unrealistic?

So 7,222 members have to post to this thread (just over half of 14,442) to get the Admins to fix a mistake?
I would think it was common sense not to have as popular of Forum as Talking the Talk omitted from the front page.

Nope- 7,000+ members don't have to respond and post that they don't like it...but more than a handful would be nice (at least in my opinion).

Just because most have not gone out of their way to mention/complain/constructively criticise in this thread, it shouldn't be assumed that they like the change.

And it shouldn't be assumed that they don't like the change either for the very same reason(s).

I realistically would estimate that over half don't like HAVING to make that one extra click off the front page. Who likes making an un-needed click? It's not The End of the Boards, but it is an obvious inconvenience.

Well, as PC said earlier, its being discussed, but I think you are exaggerating the numbers a bit. Over half? Evidence to support this? And as for "un-needed" clicks, its not un-needed if that is the area you want to visit. Inconvience to who? No way this board or ANY BOARD will ever be able to satisfy 100% of the visitors/members/whatever. People are always gonna complain/be unhappy/consider something an inconvience.

Again, until the Private Forums are consolidated on the front page, there's no business inconveniencing so many people.

Again...Inconvience to who? No way this board or ANY BOARD will ever be able to satisfy 100% of the visitors/members/whatever. People are always gonna complain/be unhappy/consider something an inconvience.

 

[Piratecat]

Well, nothing is going to be decided one way or another until people are back from traveling. Happy holidays, all!

 

[LazarusLong42]

Well, nothing is going to be decided one way or another until people are back from traveling. Happy holidays, all!

Indeed not, but I figure I'll chime in since I'm at work on Christmas Eve and have nothing better to do.

I see several sides to this argument. While the change in question has not specifically inconvenienced me--I often navigate through the drop-down at the bottom of pages anyway--I see the complainants' point: new users of the PbP forums here are most likely going to use Talking the Talk as an entry point (I did when I started into PbP). Moving the Talking the Talk forum inside Playing the Game makes it more difficult for new PbP'ers to figure out how to get into a game.

If the actual reason for the forum in-folding has been to conserve space on the front page--and, like Seonaid, I see little to no reason to do this as there are very few graphics and the page loads nigh-instantaneously when the server's not clogged--then the private forums should definitely be removed from the front page or regrouped. Isn't there some way to display them only to those who can read them? I know phpBB does that.

If the worry is not total loading time and total space on the front page, but total amount "above the fold" as it were... well, assuming the average user is running at 1024x768, above the fold includes only the first six forums on the page. (For users at 800x600--and they do exist, I'm certain--only the first two or three forums are above the fold.) No amount of forum in-folding will change that, and I suspect those top six forums can't be further collapsed--probably a good thing.

To reapersaurus' comment: I'm certain the admins don't wait for 7000 people to respond, no. In fact, of the 14,000 members, I'd lay even money that half or more have 0 or 1 posts, and that half of the rest have not posted in six months. On a messageboard this big, people come and go, or come, register, and then leave without posting, and the actual community size--that is, people who are actively part of the community--should not be considered to be more than about a third of the total "registered users." And that's generous.

And now I've rambled on for quite a while. Happy holidays, y'all!

 

[Morrus]

Folks, it's Christmas! Go and eat some turkey, drink some wine, open some presents or whatever else it is you do at this time of year. I'll look into this when I get home this weekend - right now I'm busy spending quality time with my family, and this is far from an emergency.

Have a great holiday, everyone!

 

[garyh]

Thanks for at least poking into this thread, Morrus. Happy Holidays, and I'm looking forward to hearing more on this issue from the higher-ups.

 

[BSF]

I have been rather quiet in the Meta forum lately. So, I will poke my nose in here now.

Can we handle forum display with styles? If so, then we could create a default style that was less overwhelming for new folks and a style with more forums displayed for those that prefer to sift through fewer sub-forums. Admittedly, this might be a lot of work, but is it a possibility?

 

[The Goblin King]

Humm...I have no need for torches thanks to Darkvision. Pitchforks? Oh, those pointy things humans use...no, don't have any of those. However, I do have an army of Goblins riding Worgs! Your Giant Eagle friends can not save you now Morrus!!!!!11111

Okay, I understand we can't get top billing. I can deal with that. I know why TtT was tucked away. It was because it doesn't have the highest activity, yes? Really, does having one extra forum on the front page really make that big a difference? If so, why is "Moderators Only", "Newshounds", and "Message Board Guild" on the front page? Those are all private forums.

What I want to know is why does it say "Living EN World. Lets see if this works out. Gotta website?" What does that mean? Is it leftover code or something?