Vow of Poverty bonus feats

Veven1290

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I am aware of the pitfalls of a vow of poverty but this is just for an E6 game that probably won't even happen.

My question is, do i need to qualify for the bonus feats granted by the Vow of Poverty or do i just get them similar to a monk's bonus feats?

BoED does not specify so my instinct is to say yes, i don need to qualify, but i am curious what you folks think.
 

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I am aware of the pitfalls of a vow of poverty but this is just for an E6 game that probably won't even happen.

My question is, do i need to qualify for the bonus feats granted by the Vow of Poverty or do i just get them similar to a monk's bonus feats?

BoED does not specify so my instinct is to say yes, i don need to qualify, but i am curious what you folks think.

VOLUNTARY POVERTY
In many cultures and belief systems, the height of purity is
embodied in an ascetic lifestyle that involves forswearing all
material possessions. Such a life is hard for most D&D characters
even to imagine, since their possessions—particularly their
magic items—are such an important part of their capabilities. A
character who swears a vow of poverty and takes the appropriate
feats, Sacred Vow and Vow of Poverty
, cannot own magic items,
but he gains certain spiritual benefits that can help outweigh
the lack of those items. These benefits depend on his character
level. The level at which the character swears the vow (and takes
the appropriate feats) is irrelevant; if he gives up his possessions
at 10th level he gains all the benefits of a 10th-level ascetic character,
with the exception of bonus exalted feats.

Two feats are needed to take the "vow of poverty"

Also see;
THE EXALTED MONK p.19
Disciplined ascetics who devote themselves to spiritual perfection,
good monks are natural candidates for the extreme
demands of the exalted path. It is a small step from a monk’s
unarmed and unarmored fighting style to a vow of poverty that
rejects all accoutrements of battle. Likewise, many monks practice
ascetic extremities that lead naturally into other lifelong
sacred vows. Good monks stand easily beside paladins among
the finest examples of exalted characters.
Exalted Feat Choices: Holy Ki Strike, Fist of the Heavens,
Nimbus of Light, Resounding Blow, Sacred Vow, Sanctify Ki
Strike, Sanctify Martial Strike, Servant of the Heavens, Touch of
Golden Ice.

Prestige Class Options: celestial mystic, defender of Sealtiel, initiate
of Pistis Sophia, risen martyr, sword of righteousness.

The "Exalted Monk" can chose "Sacred Vow" as it's bonus feat :)
 

Ghalleon, I think he was asking whether you have to have the prerequisites for a feat granted by the VoP's bonus feats. They work basically like the Fighter's bonus feats, so I'd say you would have to meet the prereqs
 

Unless it says you don't need to qualify (or if it fails to mention that but the "list" to choose from is extremely small and restricted, perhaps), you should assume that you need to qualify for any bonus feat you gain.

More importantly, I know you know the general pitfalls of VoP, but I have to stress: A game like E6 is the absolute WORST possible game for the feat! Presumably the other PCs will continue to get magic items even after hitting level 6. Maybe no new higher + swords and so on, but at least a bunch of minor magic items like wands, potions, wondrous devices, etc... You? You'll still have the exact same level 6 VoP benefits on week 25 of being level 6 as you had on week 1. Very bad deal, IMO.
 


I guess you could always have the party negotiate a contract in which you agree to take less than an equal share of the loot for your services...
 


Right, I've definitely thought about it. Like I said it's pretty much guaranteed not to be played. I appreciate the warnings though, it certainly would not be fun to be stuck so far behind the other players in wealth.
 

I guess you could always have the party negotiate a contract in which you agree to take less than an equal share of the loot for your services...

This specifically violates the intent as specified in the book. I have to paraphrase since I can't access my book right now but basically it states that this should not be an excuse for other party members to recieve a greater amount of loot.
 

This specifically violates the intent as specified in the book. I have to paraphrase since I can't access my book right now but basically it states that this should not be an excuse for other party members to recieve a greater amount of loot.
Got that covered in this post.

An ascetic character must be as extreme in works of charity as she is in self-denial. The majority of her share of party treasure (or the profits from the sale thereof) should be donated to the needy, either directly ... or indirectly ...
 

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