Where Complexity Belongs

[stonehead]

And no a GM who also plays is not a player, they still have way too often the GM mindset.

Then we only have a disagreement about terms. I think the average person who has been both a GM and a player would design a better game than the average person who has experience with only one of the two. If you want to call that person a GM, then fair enough.

GMs who play as players are always the most annoying players for non GM players because they cather to much for the fun of the GM and at the same time try to grab the attention all the time because they are used to having more attention when they are GMing themselves.

If we're trying not to be elitest, broad sweeping statements casting all GMs as bad players probably isn't the right play.