D&D 5E (2014) Vs Vecna battle simulations.

[MarkB]

I agree, Fell Rebuke isn't treated as a spell, nor is it technically an attack.

 

[DND_Reborn]

I agree, Fell Rebuke isn't treated as a spell, nor is it technically an attack.

That makes three FOR. Consider that the ruling. Thanks all for your input!

Using features will not negate Vecna's Invisibility unless it involves Casting A Spell or making an Attack roll.

 

[Stalker0]

Using features will not negate Vecna's Invisibility unless it involves Casting A Spell or making an Attack roll.

Which is another way that the new "spell-less spellcaster" approach has more impact than may have been intended....though in Vecna's case, again its all fair play for a CR 26!

That said, while Vecna is still invisible, I don't know if he would still be hidden (after all invis is not auto hide in 5e). Throwing around magical effects probably would still give away some notes on your position, enough that an action to stealth might still be required.

 

[MarkB]

I see that you've updated the previous turns to indicate that Vecna failed one concentration check and would need to use legendary resistance in order to maintain invisibility. That one's a tough call - on the one hand, Vecna's relatively low AC means it isn't helping him hugely against direct attacks, but on the other hand it does prevent him from being targeted by effects that require one to see the target.

I think that whether or not he maintains it will depend upon how many such effects the party have in their pocket, aside from Morcolt who can see him anyway (since he automatically knows the spellcasters' full capabilities according to the adventure write-up).

 

[DND_Reborn]

Which is another way that the new "spell-less spellcaster" approach has more impact than may have been intended....though in Vecna's case, again its all fair play for a CR 26!

That said, while Vecna is still invisible, I don't know if he would still be hidden (after all invis is not auto hide in 5e). Throwing around magical effects probably would still give away some notes on your position, enough that an action to stealth might still be required.

Morcolt can see him thanks to True Seeing, so is calling out his position anyway. Also, since he is not trying to Stealth to remain hidden, his general "area" is known to the PCs, but obviously he is Unseen to the others.

I see that you've updated the previous turns to indicate that Vecna failed one concentration check and would need to use legendary resistance in order to maintain invisibility. That one's a tough call - on the one hand, Vecna's relatively low AC means it isn't helping him hugely against direct attacks, but on the other hand it does prevent him from being targeted by effects that require one to see the target.

Yep, it is a tough call, but given his strategy I think essential for the time being.

 

[DND_Reborn]

@FitzTheRuke are you raging as a bonus action on your turn or not?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Are you bonus action raging?

I forgot about level 15: persistent rage (without which, my rage would have ended at the end of my turn). So yeah, I'll Rage.

 

[DND_Reborn]

Broodhuz's Turn:

Broodhuz dashes 80 feet "north", wondering why Morcolt sent Vecna away, and in his frustration releases his rage (bonus action) as he scans the back of the cavern in anticipation.

Invulnar's Turn:

Invulnar Dragon Wings erupt from his back (bonus action) and he wings (dashes) his way towards the pillars, bright light emanating from his hand (Sunbeam round 2).

Go'ban's Turn:

Go'ban moves forward 35 feet with the others to the next pillar, casts Guardian of Nature (bonus action), and Readies an arrow to shoot Vecna as soon as he reappears, listening to Morcolt's directions.

Morcolt's Turn:

Morcolt moves diagonally towards Vecna's last location, uses Blessing of the Raven Queen (bonus action) to teleport within 10 feet of Venca's location, and Readies an arrow from his pact longbow for when Vecna reappears. Morcolt has resistance to all damage until the start of his next turn.

If anyone wants me to move your token PLEASE let me know ASAP.

Otherwise, it is Vecna's Turn.

 

[Stalker0]

I'm good, bring out the big man!

 

[DND_Reborn]

At the end of Morcolt's Turn:

As soon as Vecna reappears (to Morcolt)...

• Morcolt unleashes his arrow and misses! (4+11 = 15), so uses Lucky to reroll and MISSES again! (1+11=12).
• Ready for the shot, Go'ban also releases his arrow and but HITS (17+12=29, note Guardian of Nature grants advantage on DEX and WIS attacks, offsetting disadvantage for Vecna's Invisibility), dealing 9 piercing damage + 5 (Fury of the Small) for a total of 14 damage!

Vecna automatically makes the DC 10 Concentration check to remain Invisible.

Venca uses Fell Rebuke (reaction #3) on Go'ban, dealing 8 necrotic damage and teleports away from Morcolt. Fortunately, Go'ban has 10 temporary hits points to take that damage and has 2 remaining.

UPDATE: Broodhuz's uses Sprit Shield (reaction) to prevent damage to Go'ban, rolling 13 (4d6), preventing the 8 necrotic damage to Go'ban.

VECNA'S TURN:

Venca uses Vile Teleport (bonus action) and lands in the middle of Morcolt, Go'ban, and Broodhuz! Dealing 9 psychic damage to Go'ban (prevented by Broodhuz, see below) and 9 psychic damage to Broodhuz, but only 4 damage to Morcolt (due to resistance). Vecna HEALS 80 hit points!

Update: Broodhuz uses Spirit Guardians (reaction) again to aid Go'ban, rolling 15, preventing the 9 damage to Go'ban. (REVMOED--He has no reaction to do this again.)

UPDATE: Go'ban succeeds on DC 10 Concentration check (17+7 = 24) to keep Guardian of Nature.

Vecna uses Rotten Fate (action) against Go'ban! Guardian of Nature gives him advantage on CON saves, and he succeeds (11,18+7 = 25 vs DC 22), but still takes 54 necrotic damage (half of 108!), with 1 point going to his temporary hp.

UPDATE: Go'ban fails DC 27 Concentration check (6,14+7 = 21) and Guardian of Nature is gone.

Venca then moves 30 feet next to Morcolt and attacks him twice with Afterthought (part of action)! Vecna hits both times (25 and 18 total vs AC 18), dealing 8 piercing damage + 14 necrotic and 8 piercing + 9 necrotic, for a total of 19 damage (half of 39 due to resistance to all damage).

Vecna is now visible. He laughs at Morcolt, "Thanks for the vacation, fool, now it is time for you all to DIE!"

CURRENT HIT POINTS: (CORRECTED)

VECNA: 181 / 272 (+80)
Go'ban: 66 / 132 (+10 - 63); UPDATED after Broorhuz used Spirit Guardians twice, preventing 17 damage.
Morcolt: 101 / 131 (-23)
Broodhuz: 140 / 149 (-9)
Invulnar: 162 / 162

It is now Broodhuz's Turn.