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DM_Matt said:

(except libertarian types, who dont like the government doing much of anything

Uhm.. I'm pretty sure you've got that backwards.

Current US party's are as follows (to the best extent of my knowledge)

Conservative: Small Government, rather let people do things for themselves.

Liberals: Big Government, let the government do things for you.

So the Conservatives would be the ones who wouldn't want the government doing extra things.
 

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DerianCypher said:


Uhm.. I'm pretty sure you've got that backwards.

Current US party's are as follows (to the best extent of my knowledge)

Conservative: Small Government, rather let people do things for themselves.

Liberals: Big Government, let the government do things for you.

So the Conservatives would be the ones who wouldn't want the government doing extra things.

Conservative and liberals aren't political parties. Libertarians, to the best extent of my knowledge, are socially liberal while economically conservative. Thus, greater personal freedoms but lower taxes and fewer government services.

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Well,
I understand that conservative/liberals aren't political parties but you might as well replace conservative and liberal with republican and democrat, respectively.

Oh well, my bad :D

DC
 


Libertarians are not liberals. There is in fact a Libertarian party in the US, though. There is a republican member of Congress from Texas (the only one to vote against the war, using the grounds taht a formal declaration was constitutionally needed) who was a Libertarian but moved over with essentially the same views to the republican party in order to get elected.

Liberals in the modern sense (Neo-Liberals or Progressives to adademics) tend to support more taxation and regulation and more expansive government programs (military excepted). Libertarians (or Classical Liberals to academics) support minimal government intrusion into people's lives, and thus low taxes, few programs, and little regulation of business or personal lives. They have utmost faith in free amrket systems to solve problems naturally (As in Adam Smith's "Invisable Hand" theory). They also tend to interpret the Constitution VERY strictly and literally, sometimes (arguably) anachronistically.

Conservatives vary, because social conservatism has aspects of paternalism built in that promote larger government, but fiscal conservatism leads to a moderate faith in the free market and a desire for low taxes. Thus, the views of conservatives regarding the size of government depend on the way in which they prioritize their sometimes-conflicting goals.
 

Both democrats and republicans are fairly big government. They just like to concentrate government authority in different areas. Historical precedent is far more illustrative than mantras used by political parties to win votes, which get repeated in high school text books.
 

Um, can we avoid getting too deep into characterizations of political parites, please? That's just bound to cheese someone off.
 

Umbran said:
Um, can we avoid getting too deep into characterizations of political parites, please? That's just bound to cheese someone off.

I second this. In any case we're gotten rather far afield from the subject at had.

buzzard
 

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