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Tarrasque Wrangler said:
Besides, what's this "4 years old" jive? Who are you to say what the statute of limitations is on giving away surprise endings? I don't go around telling people exactly who carved up Janet Leigh in Psycho, even though I expect most people who haven't even seen it know by now.

I posted a whole thread asking this very question. There was no answer. I figured 4 years seems long enough for a movie.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
What about it didn't you like?

THe children whern't that good, I felt she was over the top at times and it just distracted me from the story and sets which were a bit more interesting. It has been awhile since I saw it and I only saw it the once so I don't have specifics.
 

Arnwyn said:
Beats me. My parents thought it did, and they're pretty accepting people when it comes to movies (too accepting, IMO!). I can't say speak for myself in this regard since I didn't (and won't) see this movie.
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Only crappy movies that one doesn't like.
Being a constant voice of criticism here about almost all the movies released means that when you do say it, it doesn't mean much though. The old "Boy Who Cried Wolf" syndrome and all that. Saying that a movie is crappy and you won't see it, or not offering any solid reasons why it didn't work just exacerbate it.

Not saying that you are, although many are on these boards. There does seem to be a culture of "it's cool to have the biggest hat for movies" here. There are very few well-reasoned posts, just fanboy-loving, chain-jerker-hatin', and very occasional insightful discussions of movies here.

Ah, don't mind me. I guess I'm feeling a bit ranty today.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
Ah, don't mind me. I guess I'm feeling a bit ranty today.

I think it has more to do with more bad movies being made these days then in decades past. I see plenty of movies and in the past few years there have been fewerr great movies. Serenity was popular enough and those threads were nice and positive. So, people are willing to good about movies they like.
 

Crothian said:
I think it has more to do with more bad movies being made these days then in decades past. I see plenty of movies and in the past few years there have been fewerr great movies. Serenity was popular enough and those threads were nice and positive. So, people are willing to good about movies they like.
I disagree. Movies are generally better than they used to be, or at least more good ones are getting made. You remember the years before Fellowship of the Ring came out? There aren't very many memorable movies from that time frame. The last five years or so, on the other hand, have quite a few. I've been more excited about movies in the last few years than I have been in a long time, and my wife and I are big fans of going to the movies, and pretty much always have been.

Movies aren't getting worse, we just remember the good ones, and think that movies were "better" back in the good old days.

And Serenity got a lot of positive talk here because these boards are full of Firefly fans. Apparently, nobody else liked (or even saw) the movie besides existing fans of the show.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
Movies aren't getting worse, we just remember the good ones, and think that movies were "better" back in the good old days.

Well, with DVDs of all those old movies its easy to still watch them and see them back to back with the currents ones so to me this is not a good old days thing.

But take Flightplan for instance. I actually liked it up to the reveal. But the reveal I found weak and ruined an otherwise good movie. There have been good movies, but it just doesn't seem like people are talking about them.
 

Crothian said:
Well, with DVDs of all those old movies its easy to still watch them and see them back to back with the currents ones so to me this is not a good old days thing.
That's where I disagree still; I'm a huge fan of old movies, but really; how many old movies do you have on DVD relative to how many get made?

There are a lot of forgotten and forgettable movies. The fact that we have a very large body of movies that have been made in the last 100 years so that it seems like movies were good "back in the day" doesn't hold out for me.

Not only that, a lot of movies I used to like, I don't think much of when I see again now. Very few of them have aged well, except for the true classics.

I'm not trying to argue that Flight Plan is a true classic; I most certainly don't think it is. But I found it pretty competent and entertaining.
Crothian said:
But take Flightplan for instance. I actually liked it up to the reveal. But the reveal I found weak and ruined an otherwise good movie. There have been good movies, but it just doesn't seem like people are talking about them.
What was weak about it? Too complex? Unbelievable? Poorly executed (how?)
 

Joshua Dyal said:
That's where I disagree still; I'm a huge fan of old movies, but really; how many old movies do you have on DVD relative to how many get made?

more then these years. Ya, lots of movies got made 20 years ago that were crap, but that's still going on now. In the movie threads we talk about very few of the movies that get released this year to. So while there are forgotten moves of years ago, there are forgotten moves from this year.

What was weak about it? Too complex? Unbelievable? Poorly executed (how?)

To complex, there are easier ways then what they did and it just didn't feel right. Movbies hav a build up toward the ending and this movie I felt the end was not worth a good build up.
 

DreadPirateMurphy said:
I saw a review of the Jodie Foster flick in the WashPost that claimed the film falls apart in the big reveal.

It's not that the movie falls apart so much as the "big reveal" is an demonstration in the banality of evil. Entertainment-wise, I think perhaps we're a bit spoiled by the ultra-genius, witty, even refined serial criminals that plague fiction. In the real world, criminals are overwhelmingly undereducated, unimaginative, and their motives downright pedestrian.

Flightplan's problem, if it is a problem, is that the film really isn't a reality-bending psychological thriller and doesn't involve some convoluted plot that would make the most Machiavellian minds wobble with amazement. At bottom, it just a story about the depths that some people are willing to sink in pursuit of money, which is perhaps a not-so-subtle in-movie critique of Hollywood itself.
 

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