Want to see who is using DTRPG?

maddman75 · Sep 28, 2004

Heh - I knew there was a reason I gave them a fake name when I tried to DL Exalted. DRM is immoral, and any company that bases their business around it can't be trusted.

Cergorach · Sep 28, 2004

maddman75 said:
Heh - I knew there was a reason I gave them a fake name when I tried to DL Exalted. DRM is immoral, and any company that bases their business around it can't be trusted.

Fun!
The customer doesn't trust the publisher with his personal info.
The publisher doesn't trust the customer with his products.
It looks like a vicious circle...

Chun-tzu · Sep 28, 2004

Cergorach said:
If your not prepared to share your 'personal' inormation, go life on an island and never leave your hut, because in this society there's no other alternative...

If you're going to do nothing about it, then of course there's no alternative. This very example has proven that there IS an alternative. This is not a black or white issue, as you're making it out to be in your statement about becoming a hermit if you don't like it. We may not be able to prevent information leaking from time to time, but that doesn't mean you don't plug the leak when you find out.

Are some of the posters already prejudiced against DTRPG and just using this issue as an excuse? Possibly. But DTRPG DID screw up, big time, and it's hardly pathetic to call them on it. Someone over there made a serious lapse in judgment, but then they worked to rectify the situation.

SSquirrel · Sep 28, 2004

everyone will be happy to know that searching the large string that is the dtrpg.com memberlist page turns up no hits over at archive.org and doing a search on "drivethrurpg member list" turns up nothing on Google, at least nothing that shows any names.

So as far as the internet cache system is concerned, it never happened heh.

Hagen

jgbrowning · Sep 28, 2004

Cergorach said:
Rasyr was easy. Could i dig up the same kind of information on anyone on that list? Probably, just not through a 5 min. google search. I just find it strange that people are so paranoid, they seem to forget that the internet is a very public place, just like any public place, personal info isn't private. I highly doubt that there's anyone walking through a mall with a paperbag over his head so that he can keep his privacy.

Being paranoid doesn't help a thing to prevent that. People who told me to prove them wrong got a satellite photo of their dorm and their roommate got an e-mail asking them if they approved of their roommates paranoid behavior. Obviously that freaked someone out *grins evily* but that is possible and it didn't even require me to hack anything. If your not prepared to share your 'personal' inormation, go life on an island and never leave your hut, because in this society there's no other alternative...

The issue isn't about the "reality" of secrecy on the internet: it's one of ethical behavior. I'm sure a decent hacker can get Credit Card numbers from the net if he wants to. That doesn't matter a bit in this discussion, nor does the fact that you can get information on other people. The issue isn't about how secret your information is: the issue is about who's making it "unsecret."

Do you think a company is behaving ethically when they put ANY of their customers' personal information onto the internet without telling said customer that they're doing so?

I don't think it's ethical and I think they think the same way as demonstrated by their correction. As a potential vendor of DTRPG, every little snafu is something to remember. To me, protecting customer anonominity is a basic staple of good customer service and business practice. I'm glad they've corrected their error quickly, but, call me paranoid, it makes me wonder what else is being done that I'm not aware of. It's a good sign they fixed it quickly, that helps my confidence some, and I think this was probably some techie-minded, elegant design fix that went wrong.

joe b.