Warlord Vs Rouge

Close call between a hue and a class . . . but if it were warlord vs. cannon I think we could all agree that cannon beats warlord. So I'd pick cannon, though the roleplaying potential seems limited.
 

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Ha HA! It's funny because it's misspelled.

Anyhoo...

If you'd like to get some of the best of both worlds, you could try being a Brutal Scoundrel rogue and taking some of the MC feats for Warlord, picking up some of the powers that tactically shift your opponents/allies no matter if you hit.

Otherwise, yeah, the suggestion of going with what your group needs is solid. Rounding out a party and being crucial to party viability is almost always fun and rewarding.
 

I've just laughed myself silly, but noticed OP is looking to play their 1st ever character...

Have a word with the guy running the group you're looking to join. It may well be that they'll be happy to let you swap after a 'trial period'.

I'd suggest playing a rogue for the start of a game - they fit in pretty easily until you get the hang of the flow and a tactical sense of how it all flows.

And also noting that it was your first ever post, for my part I apologise for taking the mickey - welcome to the boards and please don't be put off for the (apparently) merciless ribbing. The rogue/rouge thing is an old classic... It's a good hobby and I hope that you really enjoy your game whatever you play.
 



I have found D&D to be interesting and am looking to join some friends in play it but i can't decide between a warlord or a rouge. i have a good idea of what I'd do as ether but can't really decide, becuase one part of me wants cunning and stealth and the other wants tactics and strength. unfortunately i can't get both as one. so can anyone advise on this.

Best combo is a Warlord with the multi-class feats to give him some Rogue-y abilites like thievery and sneak attack. The warlord is a very cool character to see played well - his ability to move people around will always ensure you can get you sneak attack in every combat.
 

I'm playing a warlord and it's really fun ... IF you have an ally adjacent to the target your fighting. :) Generally speaking this isn't hard to achieve provided you delay your turn until after your ally chooses to act. Once you have an ally attacking the target with you, you kick butt. It's really easy to get flanking with Wolf Pack Tactics. Furious Smash is fun to use against those frail, low Fort Skirmisher monsters :) . Commander's Strike and Hammer and Anvil nice if you're fighting with a Str primary character. Becuase I'm human and have the Action Surge feat, I'm also pretty good when it comes to using my dailies (Stand the Fallen and Bastion of Defense). Aid the Injured rounds out my healing abilities - I'm the group's primary healer.

So I have a good time, but I really need allies helping me to be most effective. A rogue kinda sort of needs that with regards to achieving combat advantage, but at least the rogue can use Stealth to get CA and then do a ranged attack. But in general I find that I'm able to get enough help from friends to do a good job most of the time.

So it boils down to what your preference is as a player - do you want to look awesome because you tend to do the most damage, or do you want to look awesome because you help others be awesome? If you're still not sure, another consideration is what the group needs. If noone is playing a Leader character, I'd choose warlord. If noone is playing a Striker, the rogue may be a better choice. Do you know what the other players are playing? If so, let us know and we can brainstorm some ideas with you.
 

If you've subscribed to D&D Insider, another option is to play a bard. In 4e, bards are Leaders who can get a lot of the sneaky, rogue-style abilities. However, there are a few caveats - bards don't focus on Str, only the powers that support bards specializing in Cha and Int have been given, and we only know powers up to level 10. You would definitely have your cunning tactics and roguish flair, especially if you decide to actual multiclass into rogue, get Thievery with the Skill Training feat (only do this if you don't qualify for the rogue multiclass feat), or play an eladrin (a good choice for a cunning bard, and you can get Thievery with your Eladrin Education).
 

here are somethings I missed; for one I'm use to playing games like Elder scrolls where no matter what class you pick you can do anything you want, secondly more of the people I'm going to play with are friends of my friends, and thirdly i haven't met with any of them since i got word of this group's forming
 

To the OP, if you haven't figured it out yet, the rogue-rouge thing has been a longstanding joke here.

Chad

Here, WoW, EQ... Whereever someone can play a rogue, someone else will ask seeming-non-sequitors questions about wearing makeup.
 

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