Weapon Properties and SR?

[Hypersmurf]

Point me to any magic item that is explicitly said not to be a spell-like effect. Go on.

No, enhancement bonuses don't count.

So, point you to any magic item that is explicitly said not to be a spell-like effect, apart from ones that are explicitly said not to be spell-like effects?

-Hyp.

 

[hong]

So, point you to any magic item that is explicitly said not to be a spell-like effect, apart from ones that are explicitly said not to be spell-like effects?

See, this may have something to do with

all magic item abilities (with the exception of enhancement bonuses and maybe some others)

and

That's why I said "with the exception of enhancement bonuses" up there.

and

Because they're specifically called out as exceptions. DMG p.298, "Spell Resistance".

which I seem to recall having mentioned already. This is to save you the trouble of having to repost it, because I'm JUST SO NICE.

Post proof or retract, as the saying goes.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I disagree that they are an exception to an exclusive list.

I maintain that 'spells or spell-like effects' are produced by magic items - making the line true - but that the line in no way limits the effects magic items can produce to those two things.

And that enhancement bonuses are not an exception, but rather demonstration of the fact that the list is non-exclusive.

"Magic items produce spells or spell-like effects" is not incorrect. But it does not say "Magic items only produce spells or spell-like effects".

-Hyp.

 

[hong]

I disagree that they are an exception to an exclusive list.

I maintain that 'spells or spell-like effects' are produced by magic items - making the line true - but that the line in no way limits the effects magic items can produce to those two things.

And that enhancement bonuses are not an exception, but rather demonstration of the fact that the list is non-exclusive.

Yes, yes, and the babelfish is a conclusive demonstration of the non-existence of God. Can we get back to the rules now?

"Magic items produce spells or spell-like effects" is not incorrect. But it does not say "Magic items only produce spells or spell-like effects".

This argument is getting needlessly messianic.

 

[Geron Raveneye]

Heh...actually, this argument is getting into a "Yes, it is"/"No, it isn't" sandlot argument with each further post.

Can't you two simply agree to disagree and be done with it?

After all, it's about magical weapon properties, not spells or the spell-like effects of a staff or wand.

 

[hong]

Heh...actually, this argument is getting into a "Yes, it is"/"No, it isn't" sandlot argument with each further post.

Can't you two simply agree to disagree and be done with it?

INTERRUPTING A THEOLOGICAL DISCUSSION!!!1! PLONK!!11