We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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I don't care. I'm not trying to improve the world. Its not my task to do, I'm not smart enough and neither is anyone else.


As Goethe said

Let everyone sweep in front of his own door, and the whole world will be clean.

My door ain't "the hobby" its my group and my step is clean.

Clean your step and move on.

Göthe, hmm?

How about a few words from Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller? Here is the original version of the oft-revised poem he is most famous for, and its translation:

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

Als sie die Juden holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Jude.

Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr,
der protestieren konnte.

(Translation)
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Here's some appropriate MLK for good measure:
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

Inaction just gives time for the problem to grow worse until it is at your doorstep, by which time your göethe-esque broom may be insufficient to the task of sweeping it away.
 

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I am no sure what the fascination with security cameras is. Most major conventions are held at facilities that already have some. In any typical venue, you will never have enough to cover every interaction. Normally there are more in places like the vendor area to try and prevent theft. You will have an extremely hard time covering tables to the point where speech can be heard clearly. More cameras can help prevent physical acts that can be seen in camera, but the worst normally happen in private spaces like hotel rooms.

I have not seen a fire storm of privacy advocates saying no cameras. They help, but they will never be enough. Most of us carry cameras in the form of smart phones, so they are pretty much always available. Or recorders in the form of cell phones.

Many people do carry cell phones: this is true (I do not, but that's a separate issue). However, assume that I do carry a cell phone. I would imagine that if someone were groping me and I reached into my purse to get photographic proof of the crime on my phone that he would stop as soon as my phone came out of my purse.

Also, my first instinct upon being groped would not be to reach for my phone. It would be to break the criminal physical contact being forced upon me. Once I do that, I lose the ability to record evidence of the crime. I then have to rely on someone else having seen the assault, as well as that person having been willing to get involved by filming the assault, and upon that person having reacted quickly enough to catch it on film.

By contrast, security cameras are always on and are never unwilling to record something because they don't want to get involved. This is why I think security cameras are an important part of stopping harassment and assault.
 

I have a sneaking suspicion that the "It's not my problem unless it's in my face" attitude would utterly evaporate should he catch wind of a rumor of straight conservative Christian white dudes facing harassment for their beliefs at a convention.

I don't know that he IS a "Christian"- "your problem is not my problem" isn't usually considered a philosophy consistent with most formulations of Christian theology. It is DEFINITELY not in accord with "works" based formulations, to be sure.
 

MechaPilot - I have not seen any opposition to securirty cameras here at all. They are not the only or even the best solution to the problem, they are just a tool. The best solution is community awareness coupled with a well written and enforced harassment policy.

We will never cure the ills of the world 100%. A person who will grope is highly likely to do so even with community awareness and the good and enforced policy. The best result would be that it is reported and the person removed.

If I were to organize a con (and it has been 30+ years since I did although I did run weekly Magic tournaments for quite a while) I would probably try and pick a venue that had some cameras but I doubt a venue would install more unless I was a major event.

I have security cameras in my house connected to to NAS and even running 4 can be bandwidth intensive. To add 8 cameras to an event and to use a lower level program like Blue Iris would run close to $1K and I would risk getting the cameras stolen. The only venues that are covered to the extent you want are casinos with cameras over every table and they are not used to run conventions and many do not record sound.

So more cameras increase the chances of inappropriate behavior being caught and makes enforcement easier but they are just a tool.
 

Sorry didn't mean to laugh at that last post. My thumb inadvertently hit the button and I don't know how to unlaugh a post.
 

If someone does something to upset you (not harm upset) then you should call them out of they are jerks and double down report them if they say they dodnt mean to and apologize that should be it...

Putting your hands on someone against there will isn't even close to that...this whole "or gropeing" is a crime assault is a crime you repert that and call the police.

How did we get from 0 tolerance for. Thought crime and saying insensitive things being grouped with assaults?

Harassment is the grey area, if I say something that upsets someone an appology should be all it takes not booting me from a con.

If someone gripes someone that is a crime and a cop should be called... Me jokeing about anime tenicle open should not...words and deeds are not the same.
 

Sure, if everybody did that (and if everybody had done that historically too), the opportunities and experiences of both genders could be the same. Unfortunately, that's not this world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy

That's a logical fallacy. It's not a reasonable rebuttal.

Attempting to solve a problem that will never be solved isn't an issue. It's just doing the best you can. Do you have a different, logical, reason as to why treating men and women the same wouldn't help lead to the same opportunities and experiences for both genders?

Hence, we have to treat some men as if they are barely socialised idiots.

"Some men", which men? The ones behaving badly? So the criteria is behavior, not gender, unless you're suggesting we treat all men like that....

However, the difference with a "man-only" table is that it is hard to see a reasonable justification for a "man-only table"

I'm arguing that you don't even need to provide a reasonable justification in the first place to have a gendered only table. If a group of women walk up to convention staff and request a female only table they should be granted it and not be required to give a correct answer, as if it were a test, as to why they really wanted it.

A "woman-only" table simply provides a great opportunity for woman to game together, for whatever reason, which is something difficult for most women to do normally (because they are a minority). A "man-only table" is just another way for the majority to exclude the minority.

So all women need are "whatever reason", but you don't grant that same allowance for males, simply because of whats between their legs... That's sexist by the dictionary definition. Do you define yourself as a feminist? Aren't feminists always pointing to the dictionary definition of feminism to show that their not "man haters"? What is the dictionary definition of feminism? It's in so many words, depending on the dictionary being used, about equality between the sexes. So the feminists that want equality are actually, like me, part of the problem?

Treating two groups of people equally within a social system which has a past that was unequal, and / or is a part of a larger social system with a past (and present) that is unequal, just leads to perpetuating the existing inequality. That's not the best we can do.

So when blacks first got to vote, their votes should have counted more than once (say twice as much, so 2 votes for every vote) just to even out the past imbalance? So you create inequality to balance out the past inequalities? Also you seem to be passing down the sins of the parent onto the child, or even passing along the sins of some members of that race onto all members of that race. Lets say there's a kid that was born after blacks got the right to vote and he isn't able to vote at the age of 18 because the past injustices haven't balanced out, or there's a white person who never owned slaves and was always against it and actually fought in a war to end it - their being discriminated against as well because the only reason their vote counts less is skin color not behavior.

Unless I'm completely misunderstanding you, your attempts to balance out past inequalities by reversing said inequalities today is pretty damn sick.
 
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Wouldn't a man only table also be a protection for women...yea that's were we put guys who have a bad track record interacting with women but who are not jerks enough to kick out...
 

No. it's still racist and it's still a bad thing. Why is that hard to understand? Racist jokes are racist, regardless of who tells them or where. Just because everyone around that person is also a racist doesn't suddenly mean that the comment is not a bad thing. Taken to an extreme, you can justify pretty much any behaviour that way. It's okay to do or say anything, so long as enough people around you agree?

If no one is harmed, there's nothing wrong with it doing it. No one would be harmed by a racist joke told at a KKK rally. It's also protected free speech. Just because you are I don't like a type of speech, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be allowed to be said by others.
 

imo what matters is if the person you tell the potentially offensive joke to is offended. Not if you said it in a joking manner and never really meant to offend them.
edit:and even if they aren't a joke denigrating a certain racial group is still racist.

I disagree. Intent does matter. Also, the very people into political correctness and touting how offending people is bad, completely ignore the rather significant portion of America that is offended by excessive political correctness. I keep having that offense shoved down my throat on a daily basis and no one gives half a fig that I'm offended.
 

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