What are Drow, anyway?

[Negative Zero]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Githyanki??

So why is CHA the "dump stat"?

coz players are by their nature evil!

~NegZ

 

[Hand of Evil]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Githyanki??

So why is CHA the "dump stat"?

Because everyone plays ugly!

 

[Lurks-no-More]

The reason they where so feared in 1e was simple , HIGH Magic Resistance (MR), I think it was 30% and went up 5% for every class level they had.


They always had female clerics with those damn tentacle rods and most of the males happened to be fighter/wizards.


So you had 5 or 6 front line guys keeping you busy while clerics and wizards in the back blasted you with spells. They would fireball or lighting bolt you (or worse) and not worry about hurting there own guys because they hardly ever where effected by any damn spells! Also with the darkness they had, and there ability to fight in the darkness, it sucked even worse!

Females could use charm person as a inate spell ability and because 1e charm was a damn 1st or 2nd level spell that works like a 3e Dominate Person you where in a world of pain my friends!


Damn Drow!

Don't forget the ability to levitate and, especially, the faerie fire trick that effectively negated invisibility.

I've always thought that they were something Gygagx made up to specifically counter the usual tricks PCs relied upon.

The powerful magical items that are next to useless to you after you kill the damn drow seem to be adding insult to injury.

 

[dagger]

That always irked us as well, we used to scheme of ways to keep the damn dark elf armor around!

We hated figting the drow because it had no profit in it at all.

The githyanki where bad as well, because even if you did manage to survive a fight with one wielding a +5 super vorpal sword, they always kept poping in to get it back and those strike teams just kept getting worse and worse. Aww the memories.......

The powerful magical items that are next to useless to you after you kill the damn drow seem to be adding insult to injury.

 

[Desdichado]

Yeah, I prefer not to leave any stats as dump stats -- to me that's a DM failing. My campaigns have WIS related checks -- Spot and Listen especially. I do a lot of CHA related checks as well.

 

[The_Gneech]

The drow, with their wheels-within-wheels schemes, dark poisons, and so forth, make for a very cool, creepy, Macbeth-esque feel as campaign villains ... once. But as has been mentioned, they're easily overdone.

-The Gneech

 

[jester47]

Re: Githyanki??

Sorry, there are just so many reasons why githyanki just won't cut it.

They are too involved with psionics, and too many of us were too scared by the original version of that to ever allow that to be core.

They have a distinctly limited number of levels. There pretty much are no low level guthyanki, and there are no epic level ones.

They are just not evil enough. Since they hate mind flayers, they are possible allies.

They are ugly. You really want to replace sexy drow with something like that?

I can see the Githyanki being a new drow. Both races are just as cool as the other, and they have great backstories. Even a standard CR1 Githyanki is pretty deadly with dimension door and thier other spec abilities due to thier psionics. These guys are my favorite race and then Drow come next. Both races work in sort of Alien (Drow) and Predator (Githyanki) kind of way...

Never liked the Githzeri much...

It occurs to me that It would be fun to run a campaign where the races are all non-standard and the standard races except for humans are unheard of.

Aaron.

 

[LuYangShih]

That would probably be the other way around. The Drow are much better looking than your average Githyanki, so I would say they are the equivalent of the Predator, and the Githyanki would be the equivalent of Alien, if you want to look at it that way. Personally I think it is far more accurate to equate the "Alien" type race as the Illithid.

 

[apocalypstick]

Drow? Drow aren't creepy.

Duergar are creepy.

 

[jester47]

That would probably be the other way around. The Drow are much better looking than your average Githyanki, so I would say they are the equivalent of the Predator, and the Githyanki would be the equivalent of Alien, if you want to look at it that way. Personally I think it is far more accurate to equate the "Alien" type race as the Illithid.

Well, I was thinking about it in a strictly operational view. Drow are sneeky in the shadows, sleek, and can be very deadly. The first encounter scene in Aliens reminds me of an underdark encounter. The Predators go from world to world hunting, and are more face to face warriors. More like the Githyanki. I think both the Aliens and the Predators are Frikkin Ugly. So I stuck to the function of form when making the association.