MortalPlague
Adventurer
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned rogue by now. It's hard to build a poor rogue in this edition!
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned rogue by now. It's hard to build a poor rogue in this edition!
The Knight/Slayer/Theif/Scout/Vampire are sorely lacking in versatility and choice...
The basic artful dodger halfling rogue was terribly effective... and IMHO he didn´t even chose the MOST poweful options...Do you mean the core rogue or the essentials rogue?
We have had two core rogues in games I've played in, both rogues were absolutely terrible. I havne't not been too impressed. Now the essentials thief on the other hand feels very thiefy.
Do you mean the core rogue or the essentials rogue?
We have had two core rogues in games I've played in, both rogues were absolutely terrible. I havne't not been too impressed. Now the essentials thief on the other hand feels very thiefy.
So are you saying you want to add them to the list? Do you the feel the invoker offers the wide range of powerful builds that the others do, or is this a specific optimized combo.
i get up to +17 with CA... did you include a leader bonus?I guess, but I loved playing a Thief; attacking at +19 to hit at 4th level (+23 with Heroic Effort) for around 28 average damage with a thrown dagger was awesome; I loved squeezing out every bit of attack bonus & damage from the limited ruleset we were allowed. The Tricks gave one or two options also, but it was really all about never missing and always doing huge damage, while lurking away from the front line and hardly ever being hit.
Funnily, it's with the Fighter that I really appreciate having tons of options; Slayer & Knight are much less attractive to me than the core Fighter/Weaponmaster. Whereas I find the core Rogue over-fiddly, getting CA without being squashed seems too hard, and without CA they seem weak.
i get up to +17 with CA... did you include a leader bonus?
The basic artful dodger halfling rogue was terribly effective... and IMHO he didn´t even chose the MOST poweful options...