D&D 5E What classes do you want added to 5e?

[ChrisCarlson]

So the real difference isn't the Warlord's voice, it's the ally's reaction to that voice, even if only a sub-conscious emotional one.

There it is again. My half-orc barbarian just has so much love and respect for your warlord, cuz rules...

Until you realize you cannot have this type of mandated character interaction, the ideas being presented for how this kind of thing would work will remain a non-starter, AFAIC.

 

[mellored]

There it is again. My half-orc barbarian just has so much love and respect for your warlord, cuz rules...

Until you realize you cannot have this type of mandated character interaction, the ideas being presented for how this kind of thing would work will remain a non-starter, AFAIC.

My half-orc barbarian just got paralyzed because your wizard waved his hands around.

cuz the rules

 

[Guest 6801328]

Have you ever had the pleasure of seeing a drill servant in action? Have you never, ever met a coach who could motivate people past their limits, make them ignore pain and fight/play on? Have you never even seen a movie with such a n individual portrayed as a character?

Oh, you mean figures who have authority over others? Who can inflict punishment (in the form of physical exercise) on those who don't follow orders with sufficient enthusiasm?

Um....yeah. I mean, no thanks. Not from a member...a peer...in my adventuring party, anyway.

(FWIW, the best coach I ever had never yelled.)

 

[Guest 6801328]

My half-orc barbarian just got paralyzed because your wizard waved his hands around.

cuz the rules

Wait...so when a Warlord uses Inspirational Healing it's actually PvP? I guess that fits with the Drill Sergeant analogy. /wink

 

[Kabouter Games]

In case anyone's interested, I posted a thread about a Cavalier archetype. It's not a class, but I didn't think it deserved a new class, because I couldn't come up with three archetypes within a proposed class.

 

[TwoSix]

Alarm clocks just illustrate that unconscious <> deaf in an amusing, obvious way. There's also a belief that even coma patients can hear what's being said around the, cases of people under heavy sedation doing so, and so forth.

Dropped to 0 doesn't equal brain-dead, either. The character's sub-conscious is still there, for instance.

So the real difference isn't the Warlord's voice, it's the ally's reaction to that voice, even if only a sub-conscious emotional one.

I wonder what difference it would make if 0 HP wasn't "unconscious", but rather simply "woozy" and unable to act, and death saves were replaced with "unconscious saves." Fail 3 and you pass out, make 3 and you can spend a Hit Die to get back up. Real death would simply be a narrative result, like if you fall in lava or the goblin decides to cut your throat.

 

[TwoSix]

There it is again. My half-orc barbarian just has so much love and respect for your warlord, cuz rules...

Until you realize you cannot have this type of mandated character interaction, the ideas being presented for how this kind of thing would work will remain a non-starter, AFAIC.

Or maybe he just hates him so much he refuses to give him the satisfaction of death. Or maybe he just really doesn't want to die, and those words remind him.

Play the mechanics. Narrate the results to fit. Circle of life.

 

[ChrisCarlson]

My half-orc barbarian just got paralyzed because your wizard waved his hands around.

cuz the rules

You can keep using the same specious argument a hundred more times. It's still never going to make any sense. You either completely miss the point, or are being willfully disingenuous. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that it's the former and reiterate what many have already explained every time you've gone there in the past...

The wizard is using external forces to influence the barbarian. External. Exerting power over the barbarian, externally. Yes, through magic. But that's not even the real point. It's that the warlord is "allowing" the barbarian to tap into his own internal forces that were there all along. Why is the barbarian never able to use that same reserve of will/strength unless the warlord "unlocks" it? If there is no warlord, is that hidden reserve even really there? If not, why is it there for the warlord to access just because he's around?

Furthermore, the wizard can paralyze the barbarian regardless of how the two feel about each other. Respect, loathing, indifference. Doesn't matter. Not so for the warlord's tricks. Just look at what Tony just said...

 

[ChrisCarlson]

Or maybe he just hates him so much he refuses to give him the satisfaction of death. Or maybe he just really doesn't want to die, and those words remind him.

Play the mechanics. Narrate the results to fit. Circle of life.

What about indifference? My barbarian could have just met the warlord, doesn't even know his name yet, and the new guy can do it just as well. Heck, my barbarian could have been dropped, dying from a crit by a giant's club, and while unconscious a warlord he's never met walks into the room and rouses him to consciousness with an previously unknown reserve of willpower to fight on!. Cuz respect and inspiration!

That's ridiculous in the narration.

 

[Minigiant]

Warlord Swarlord.

I want truenamers

"Kazmorel. I say your name and you submit to me. Bow foul demon. Down on the ground. Kazmorel."