What counters silence


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AGGEMAM said:
Please look under wand (DMG, page 206) for activation of wands in particular instead of the general description of activating a spell trigger item.
Well, staves are also spell trigger and the section of staves says pretty much the same thing as wands. So if you go by the wand or staff descriptions alone, then no spell-trigger items actually follow the rules for spell-triggers. *shrug*
 

Tanglefoot bags are great, although maybe not so hot against monks. The monk's touch AC is the same as his normal AC, and he probably has a nice reflex save. Plus, you're throwing into melee if the monk is on top of your spellcaster.
 

If the monk keeps rushing off to engage the spellcasters, that means he's isolated from his buddies. Gang up on him and whack him to bits.
 

AGGEMAM said:
Please look under wand (DMG, page 206) for activation of wands in particular instead of the general description of activating a spell trigger item.

You just have to have it in hand and wave in the general direction you want the spell to go, nothing else.

I very much disagree. The activation details under wands are in addition to those for "spell triggers", not instead of them. The exact same language is included under "staffs", and by that logic, that means that no spell trigger items require a command word (wands and staffs being the only such items).
 

Now here's a question.

If someone has Ventriloquism running, and they are in an area of magical Silence, but the range of the Ventriloquism extends outside the silenced area, can they make their voice issue from somewhere outside the Silence?

If so... would DMs permit the verbal component of a spell to come from 30 feet away from the caster?

It could give an otherwise bland spell (oh, I'm sure everyone has some great Ventriloquism stories, but how many Sorcerers have ever taken it?) an interesting twist.

Especially if it were reworked to allow Persistent Spell to affect it...

-Hyp.
 

if it is a wizard or cleric that is being bugged by the monk... have them fly or airwalk away! whee!

"Oh look!" pointing towards the monk, "A target!"
 

Hypersmurf said:
Now here's a question.

If someone has Ventriloquism running, and they are in an area of magical Silence, but the range of the Ventriloquism extends outside the silenced area, can they make their voice issue from somewhere outside the Silence?

If so... would DMs permit the verbal component of a spell to come from 30 feet away from the caster?

It could give an otherwise bland spell (oh, I'm sure everyone has some great Ventriloquism stories, but how many Sorcerers have ever taken it?) an interesting twist.

Especially if it were reworked to allow Persistent Spell to affect it...

-Hyp.

This is a neat question. I can't wait for the answers :)

Theoretically, since it's a glamer, all it does is nullify sound within the effect, so if ventriloquism doesn't require you to make any sounds in order to transmit your voice it seems like it should work. Unless, magic being what it is, won't function unless it comes directly from you.

I'd like to say yes to this, but I have a feeling the answer is no.

IceBear
 
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Ventriloquism has a verbal component. Therefor it would have to be a silenced version of the spell to be able to be cast from inside a sphere of silence. I would allow it to work as long as the verbal component was gotten around however, I do not allow any sound inside a sphere of silence. This makes the person inside the sphere effectivly deaf. Therefor the verbal component cannot be cast from outside the sphere using ventriloquism.

As a wizard I once used this spell very effectivly.

I was in a castle and needed to find the head guy, but I wasn't supposed to be there. I waited for two servants to walk past one another and then used this spell (while invisible) to make each think the other had asked the question. They both answered each other then said hey. But too late I had my information and was on my way.
 

There are rods of metamagic in the Tome and blood. If the enemy spellcaster knows about the party, knows that they have a cleric, then he might want to invest in a silent spell rod, just so he can use some of his spells without wasting slots within the silence and the players will go nuts when they see his mouth moving, no sound and yet the spell works.
 

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