What have you hate-watched and why?

Retreater · Aug 5, 2020

The Big Bang Theory
The Witcher (as much of it as I could stand, anyway)

Imaculata · Aug 5, 2020

GreyLord said:
I'm not sure how the events will transpire, but I think it ends in how Martin told them it must end. That means the fates of the characters in the final episode of season 8 is exactly where they will be at the end of his series, IF he ends it how he instructed D&D to end it.

I have a slightly different opinion on this. When the final episode of Game of Thrones came out, Emilia Clarke seemed genuinely shocked with what the episode had become. This has lead some fans to theorize that large things were changed at the last minute (possibly in post), without informing the actors.

Its possible that the books will roughly steer towards the ending that we got, but I think that Dany was not meant to be cast as such a villain as she was in the final product. It seemed very out of character for her. I think the show runners did her wrong, and I don't trust their treatment of the story.

GreyLord · Aug 5, 2020

Imaculata said:
I have a slightly different opinion on this. When the final episode of Game of Thrones came out, Emilia Clarke seemed genuinely shocked with what the episode had become. This has lead some fans to theorize that large things were changed at the last minute (possibly in post), without informing the actors.

Its possible that the books will roughly steer towards the ending that we got, but I think that Dany was not meant to be cast as such a villain as she was in the final product. It seemed very out of character for her. I think the show runners did her wrong, and I don't trust their treatment of the story.

If I remember correctly on the interviews they gave, Martin specified WHO would end up on the throne and who probably would survive. Other than that, it isn't specified what else he told them about the ending. Other than what he told them, they were left up to their own devices. So, the events leading up to the end, including Dany, may not be exactly what he has in mind. It's only the END that Martin told them how it will be...not necessarily everything that happens in getting to that endpoint.

Gladius Legis · Aug 6, 2020

Retreater said:
The Big Bang Theory

This show is so repulsive to me that I can't even hate-watch it.

Levistus's_Leviathan · Aug 6, 2020

Gladius Legis said:
This show is so repulsive to me that I can't even hate-watch it.

I've never heard much about it or seen it. Can you explain why?

Ryujin · Aug 6, 2020

AcererakTriple6 said:
I've never heard much about it or seen it. Can you explain why?

I Can't speak for Gladius Legis but, from my point of view, the show laughs AT geeks/nerd, rather than laughing WITH geeks/nerds. I find that repellent, being a lifelong nerdy type, myself.

Also, it's a sitcom, so...

Imaculata · Aug 6, 2020

Ryujin said:
I Can't speak for Gladius Legis but, from my point of view, the show laughs AT geeks/nerd, rather than laughing WITH geeks/nerds. I find that repellent, being a lifelong nerdy type, myself.

That is pretty much the impression I always got from it, which is why I've avoided it.

Gladius Legis · Aug 6, 2020

Ryujin said:
I Can't speak for Gladius Legis but, from my point of view, the show laughs AT geeks/nerd, rather than laughing WITH geeks/nerds. I find that repellent, being a lifelong nerdy type, myself.

Also, it's a sitcom, so...

Prety much this, and also much of the jokes came from rather, uh, backwards sensibilities ...

payn · Aug 6, 2020

Imaculata said:
I have a slightly different opinion on this. When the final episode of Game of Thrones came out, Emilia Clarke seemed genuinely shocked with what the episode had become. This has lead some fans to theorize that large things were changed at the last minute (possibly in post), without informing the actors.

Its possible that the books will roughly steer towards the ending that we got, but I think that Dany was not meant to be cast as such a villain as she was in the final product. It seemed very out of character for her. I think the show runners did her wrong, and I don't trust their treatment of the story.

I certainly didnt trust the showrunners with the story. It was pretty evident once Martin's writing ran out the quality suffered. Pretty much a downward spiral from the end of season 5 with outright plummet in season 8.

As for Dany, I was in full support of her out come on the show. Madness runs in the family after all, and this turn of events was very poetic. The problem was the showrunners decided 1.5 episodes was enough time to develop all of that.

Ryujin · Aug 6, 2020

payn said:
I certainly didnt trust the showrunners with the story. It was pretty evident once Martin's writing ran out the quality suffered. Pretty much a downward spiral from the end of season 5 with outright plummet in season 8.

As for Dany, I was in full support of her out come on the show. Madness runs in the family after all, and this turn of events was very poetic. The problem was the showrunners decided 1.5 episodes was enough time to develop all of that.

Given that Benioff and Weiss pretty much admitted to being out of their depth and their comments in Austin about the art of storytelling, in general, it's pretty clear that they weren't the right choices. When they ran out of the original material, they were screwed.

I stopped watching both GoT and TWD for pretty much the same reasons; I was tired of my favourite characters being used for "murder porn" and grew tired of the grind in both. it was like going to play my favourite RPG, every week, and finding that the best that the DM could muster was an avalanche of Orcs to kill. Every. Single. Time. There's no even "hate watching" that sort of thing.