D&D General What if Hit Points were the currency of the game rules?

[Big J Money]

Heck, I'll also add my 2 cents.

I'm intrigued by such a system, however for deungeoncrawl games, I want to point out that something is lost if you equalize currency between the classes.

One thing that has been a part of D&D from the begining is that Fighters don't worry about currency as much as Mages. Actually, it's a spectrum:

<- Fighter / Thief ----- Cleric ----- Mage ->

Playing mage means three things: 1) you will one day be more powerful than anyone else in the party, 2) but you are squishy and need defending, and 3) you also will have to manage your spell resources, which are the source of your power.

So the fighter is at the end of the spectrum where resources are the least concern. His superior melee weapons and armor don't need resources, and he has the most HP of any class.

The mage is at the other end of the spectrum where resources are the most concern. Her primary weapon is her magic, which costs resources, and she has the fewest HP of any class.

If you equalize these resources you lose this feature of D&D, but I'm sure a lot of people would not care. Personally this is pretty foundational to how I view the classes, but I'd still be willing to try something different.

Edit: The above almost doesn't apply to 4th edition, but I'm never referring to 4E when I'm talking about D&D.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Totally different game, but betrayal at krondor crpg used hitpoints to fuel spells.
That system was intriguing. Combined with not being able to rest above a certaintreshold without use of herbs or tavern rests made it a great resource management system on who to keep how much alive.

 

[Gadget]

I find the system intriguing, especially for a beginner's RPG where things are kept very simple. I've often thought about similar Hit Point cost for martials to accomplish great feats of arms.

I wonder about the viability of using it for more complex systems, as using it HP as a resource for everything would lead to certain exploits and imbalances, I would think. How would 'healing' abilities (spells, potions, etc.) work? Would they restore abilities to provide more healing and spells? It would require a complete system rewrite, I would think.

That said, it could be combined with other resource management systems to reduce the over all clutter and give interesting abilities.

 

[Eric V]

It sounds very interesting...

Didn't 2e Spells and Magic try to do something like this with Channeling?

 

[hawkeyefan]

I think it's an interesting dynamic that has the potential to really open up some interesting play elements....some meaningful decisions for players to make. Do they spend HP to make a potentially fight ending attack against their foe, or do they keep the HP in case they get hit again?

There are some games out there with similar mechanics, and I tend to really like them.

 

[JeffB]

What about consumables?

Potions, rations, torches, arrow, etc

It is not meant as actual currency- I should have used quotes around the word. Since HP represent grit, luck, endurance- they would fuel your class abilities- not used for purchasing equipment (see The Black Hack RPG for some other cool ways of tracking/using Inventory i.e. the usage die)

My first thought was "if they're a currency, they can be exchanged between players".

Not exchanged, however one could certainly burn their own HP as an "aid another" action if it were relevant to the task at hand

e.g.
Helping the fighter lift the portcullis
Causing a distraction for the thief so they can lift the key ring from Hobgoblin Guard
Sacrificing some of your own personal power to help the Wizard fuel the ritual he is too injured to complete himself.

etc.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

There would be some little quirks with healing spells when you are healing yourself, forex: cast Cure Wound for 4 hp, then heal yourself for 1d8?

There also the fact that using HP to fuel spells means that, say a Wizard, can cast many more spells if there's a dedicated healer in the party than in regular D&D, since Heal/Cure Wound/Regenerate would give me give you the equivalent of more spell slots.

 

[Nebulous]

I really like it. I'm tempted to print off those little cards and show it to some newbies. I played Dungeon World once long ago and liked it, but it was just a one-off.

 

[Harzel]

It's an interesting idea in the abstract, and if you built a game from the ground up to work that way, it seems like it could be ok. But in converting 5e to such a system I think it would be very challenging to tune the costs of using various features appropriately. Using spell points instead of slots is a similar change (though much smaller in scope), and certainly a major tension that arises there stems from using a common resource pool for features of greatly differing power - in the case of spell points, low-level spells vs. high-level spells. If high-powered features are not expensive enough relative to low-powered features, then you'll enable the high-powered features to be used much more than intended. OTOH if you make the high-powered features too expensive, then by foregoing a few uses of high-powered features, the low-powered features become effectively at-will. And, at least in the case of spell points, (IMO) no middle ground is satisfactory because in the middle you have both problems at once, that is, as you tune to alleviate one problem, the second rises up before you have gone far enough to tamp down the first.

With all features working off a common resource pool, it seems like you would just have this problem in spades. To be workable, it seems like features would need to be much less disparate in power level than 5e's are.

 

[Don Durito]

Sounds like the Cypher system.