Viking Bastard
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Anyway, I don't think there's much more to say between us. We agree on some and disagree on others and that's that. 
What is 'Enterprise' missing?
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John Crichton
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Works for me.Viking Bastard said:Anyway, I don't think there's much more to say between us. We agree on some and disagree on others and that's that.
Here's to hoping the show continues to improve and doesn't pull a Voyager.
Viking Bastard
Adventurer
That's my fear. 
It was said in interviews at the begining. It was said at the end of the last season in interviews and friends that work in the prop industry (That I talk to regularly) have said that they were told to come up with interesting retro type designs for romulan props for consideration of that story arc. The consistancy is that the Romulans were never seen until Kirk's time and Kirk as the first to see one. They did a good job on this piece of Trek history.
They have an Idea in mind yes. They have a direction, that in the next two seasons (if they do what they say) will be very interesting.
They realize that they have had some weak scripts and the big boys watch certain fan messageboards. (not sure about this one though). They want to know what to do right. They are trying to keep the franchise alive and when the franchise started to wane they didn't really understand why so they began to ask the fans what they wanted. They just didn't do it directly.
I just recently read some interview with the writer of "Nemisis" and he stated that he knew the fans wanted to see Sela and Spock but he felt he couldn't do them the proper honor so he didn't write them in. Interesting yes?
Now about them being more grounded in 20th century. I think they are doing a pretty good job and I enjoy the show. I do not think they need time travel stories. I liked the last one though. I liked the one where Archer was stranded in the 31st Century. But I think they need to make it more "Military like" than what it is now. The old series was like a Navy in space. This is more like D&D in space to me. Too casual in some ways. Part of it is that Roddenberry and crew had all been products of WW2 and Korea and Vietnam was going on. It is great to have a sense of family but this is still an exploritory arm of a military machine.
I guess now that I think about it a little more, the show is a reflection of the times. People are more rude and less tolerant of things and that is refelcted in peoples entertainment. I am not saying all people so please do not assume I am. Look at the other shows on the air. This having to be politically correct all the time just grates on me. People have less mannors nowadays and this is also refelcted in T.V. entertainment.
Geez that sounds like a rant ...sorry about that ....time for me to stop i guess.
A good idea of how I think the crew would be more military like is to read "The Mote in God's Eye" By Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. "The Gripping Hand" is the sequal. After reading it you will have a better understanding of what I mean.
Talk to ya later,
Darius
myrdden
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Darius101 said:
That's not a bad observation. I think one of the reasons ENT feels a bit off is that the atmosphere of the show is more like the later series than TOS. I wouldn't mind seeing a bit more discipline on the ship. Make Archer more like Kirk and less like Picard or Janeway!
Myrdden
John Crichton
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I think what throws some folks is Archer and Trip's friendship (not to mention his friendship with Hoshi). Archer has many friends in his crew from Earth (because Starfleet asumably wasn't that big at the time) which wasn't the case on TOS. Each of the newer series has had some kind of established friend coupling in the main crew (Picard/Crusher & Sisko/Dax come to mind). From what I recall, Kirk didn't really have any friends at the beginning. He developed friendships with Bones and Spock, but that was over the course of the series' run.
Plus, Archer isn't a cowboy type like Kirk was. Kirk was very shoot from the hip and fire-first-ask-questions-later; the consumate cowboy and fighter. Picard was very diplomatic but inside he was a fighter. Sisko was a fighter who forced into the role of a diplomat. And Janeway was just a wuss
. Archer has been described as a boy-scout type. While that may be partially true, I like to think of him as a diplomat who is forced to be a fighter.
I think we'll see more of Archer's mettle as the series continues and he hardens up a bit more.
Plus, Archer isn't a cowboy type like Kirk was. Kirk was very shoot from the hip and fire-first-ask-questions-later; the consumate cowboy and fighter. Picard was very diplomatic but inside he was a fighter. Sisko was a fighter who forced into the role of a diplomat. And Janeway was just a wuss
. Archer has been described as a boy-scout type. While that may be partially true, I like to think of him as a diplomat who is forced to be a fighter.I think we'll see more of Archer's mettle as the series continues and he hardens up a bit more.
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Mark CMG
Creative Mountain Games
Silver Moon said:
But it is the tech. And it isn't something new, it is something old. They don't have safety belts. They don't have airbags. They don't have enough handrails at ops stations on the bridge. They don't have enough padding built into their work suits, like in the knees and elbows. They don't have helmets handy to put on their heads when they get into a tactical situation. They don't have eye gear readily available for those same situations.
And why do they have glassware? Bottles? etc on a ship like that? I can maybe understand why it might be on instrument panels, but even then you'd think they'd have replaced it with something the hell else considering how dangerous it can be when it shatters.
I do not care if it shows up in later series in their chronology or if basic common sense safety precautions have been ignored for those same later series. If they want this series to seem more real and pertinent to our own times then let's get with the program and buckle the hell up!
An interview
http://www.startrek.com/news/news.asp?ID=127677
This is an interview With B&B about a direction they would like to take.
It is interesting to say the least.
Darius
http://www.startrek.com/news/news.asp?ID=127677
This is an interview With B&B about a direction they would like to take.
It is interesting to say the least.
Darius
Sagan Darkside
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Re: An interview
These guys kind of remind me of the people who ran the XFL.
Hopefully their new direction will turn out better.
SD
Darius101 said:
These guys kind of remind me of the people who ran the XFL.
Hopefully their new direction will turn out better.
SD
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