What is "The Forge?"

[Bastoche]

What about "if you reject it 100%, you just don't agree with it"?

Because many things they suggest makes sense. The key word here is "100%". If you reject it 100%, than yes that's not because you don't agree with but really because you don't get it. This thread is going nowhere fast. In fact it already has.

 

[Kanegrundar]

But everything you write from now on will be directly influenced by it.

Hehehe. Quite true!

 

[d20Dwarf]

Right, because commercial success is the sole indicator of a product's worth. The games that have made the most money are obviously the best games, because the mere fact that lots of people like something is the surest indicator of its merits. What game has the best rules? Whichever one made the most money! Danielle Steel and Stephen King are obviously the best writers in the world because they've sold the most books. Titanic is obviously the best movie ever made because it made a whole pile of cash. Commercial benchmarks are the best indicators of a game's quality as a game.

Well, sorta. If you told me some crap movie I'd never heard of was the greatest film ever made and that all commercially successful films from the last 5 years owed it gratitude, I would think you were off your rocker. "High quality products will find distribution" is not the same thing as "that with the best distribution has the highest quality."

 

[Bastoche]

Hehehe. Quite true!

This is exactly the kind of "clique" self-congratulation that the forge clique is being accused of. Great job guys! It's nice to see that you really are part of the better clique of the 2

 

[Jim Hague]

Because many things they suggest makes sense. The key word here is "100%". If you reject it 100%, than yes that's not because you don't agree with but really because you don't get it. This thread is going nowhere fast. In fact it already has.

No, it means you don't agree with it, 100%.

For example, I 'get' the political concept of fascism - and I reject it 100%. Are you going to tell me I don't 'get it'? Your statement makes no sense. Nor does saying the thread's going nowhere. Just because you don't like the discussion doesn't mean discussion isn't taking place. Of course, if you're rejecting it 100% (which you do with the statement 'In fact it already has.'), then are you not 'getting it'?

 

[d20Dwarf]

This is exactly the kind of "clique" self-congratulation that the forge clique is being accused of. Great job guys! It's nice to see that you really are part of the better clique of the 2

Do you reject dramatic irony 100%?

 

[Teflon Billy]

...If you reject it 100%, than yes that's not because you don't agree with but really because you don't get it. This thread is going nowhere fast. In fact it already has.

Oh my God.

"...if you disagree with me, it's because you can't understand my point"

This one is going in the file as well.

 

[Kanegrundar]

Because many things they suggest makes sense. The key word here is "100%". If you reject it 100%, than yes that's not because you don't agree with but really because you don't get it. This thread is going nowhere fast. In fact it already has.

That's patently false. Just because I don't agree with something 100% doesn't mean that I don't understand it. That's the kind of attitude that turned me off to the Forge is the first place.

 

[jgbrowning]

That's patently false. Just because I don't agree with something 100% doesn't mean that I don't understand it. That's the kind of attitude that turned me off to the Forge is the first place.

Yeah. Believe it or not there are quite a few very intelligent people around here who are quite capable of "getting it" while still not agreeing with "it."

joe b.

 

[Kanegrundar]

Yeah. Believe it or not there are quite a few very intelligent people around here who are quite capable of "getting it" while still not agreeing with "it."

joe b.

Here. There. Everywhere. It's been happening for a long time as well, from what I understand.