What is the highest AC that a PC can get by class?

[Iku Rex]

two simple things are Improved Expertise Feat. Now you'd only be limited to BAB, like Power Attack.

I don't have AO, so I don't want to include anything from that book.

But if this character can take Improved Expertise, the new max would be 15 higher (Divine Power), or 25 higher if you allow the character to use Improved Expertise with Tenser's Transformation (through a Miracle, on top of the Divine Power). (New total: 157)

 

[Iku Rex]

You have 2 +1 defending short swords...

Can you cast greater magic weapon and use the benefits to power an innate ability of the sword like that?

Yes.
"A defender weapon allows the wielder to transfer some or all of the sword’s enhancement bonus to his AC as a special bonus that stacks with all others. Greater Magic Weapon "gives a weapon an enhancement bonus to attack and damage of +1 per three caster levels (maximum +5).

Also, which diety do you have that has access to all of those domains?

Cleric (Sharess)...

Not to mention, when you polymorph I think that you take only the physical characteristics of the assumend form.

STR DEX and CON

You have a 22 base listed for INT (Planetar)

Polymorph any Object. Pay attention.

You could have transformed yourself into a Solar with a better STR DEX CON and Natural Armor to boot...

And this would require Shapechange... Some domains have Shapechange at 9th level, but then I would have to give up the 22 Int and get cheesy with a Ring of Spell-Storing to cast Aspect of the Deity.

All this is fine and dandy at 20th level, but would this character make it there?

Some aspects of this character are obviously not very realistic on a lower level. (He starts with "8" in all stats except Wis and Cha. ) But overall I think it's a viable concept. (And not all characters are played from 1st to 20th level.)

The ability score increase was added to the planetars base and this should not be happening...

When you polymorph you take on the physical characteristics of the assumed form.

This means that the DEX would be that of the ASSUMED form, thus the tome would not count...

The Plantar's Dexterity score is 19. PaO changes your Dexterity score to that of the Planetar. Your Dexterity score is now 19. The inherent bonus is added to your Dexterity score.

I fail to see the problem here.

 

[nwn_deadman]

You are right on poly any...

BUT, why does the inherent increase count AFTER you poly?

It is like an instantaneous effect (since it cannot be dispelled) and by the nature of the word inherent (it is like natural or innate) then when you take the natural form you do not get this bonus.

See the logic?

Also, why can you poly into a planetar and not a solar...

BTW, poly errata does not allow you to take the form of an outsider...

 

[Iku Rex]

It is like an instantaneous effect (since it cannot be dispelled) and by the nature of the word inherent (it is like natural or innate) then when you take the natural form you do not get this bonus.

See the logic?

An inherent bonus is not an instantaneous effect. It has an upper limit of +5, and will not stack with another inherent bonus. It's just a magical bonus to an ability score that can't be dispelled. (I understand what you mean, but based on the rules alone I think I am on safe ground.)

Also, why can you poly into a planetar and not a solar...

A Solar has (minimum) 22 HD. Polymorph has a 15 HD limit.

BTW, poly errata does not allow you to take the form of an outsider...

...unless you are an outsider yourself. Thus the five levels of Divine Disciple.

 

[nwn_deadman]

Just came up with another ay to phrase the inherent ability score increases...

Think of an inherent ability score increase as an instantaneous effect (since it cannot be dispelled and I cannot find any other magic that cannot be dispelled that is NOT instantaneous).

Now, IF it is an instantaneous effect and this is what makes it an INHERENT bonus we must take a look at what Inherent means?

Inherent - http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

Main Entry: in·her·ent
Pronunciation: -&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin inhaerent-, inhaerens, present participle of inhaerEre
Date: 1581
: involved in the constitution or essential character of something : belonging by nature or habit :

BELONGING BY NATURE

Since you lose your NATURAL physical characteristics, seems plain to me that you would ALSO lose your INHERENT ability score increases...

 

[nwn_deadman]

From the eratta center...

What if the polymorphing creature is already an undead, construct, outsider or elemental? What forms can these types assume? Anything a prime creature could, plus outsiders of their type (or elementals of their type, etc.)

Since a dragon diciple is NOT a Celestial, you cannot polymorph into one...

 

[Iku Rex]

From the eratta center...

That's based on something Sean Reynolds said before the Polymorph Other errata was published.

According to the official DnD rules, a 5th level Divine Disciple is an "outsider", and can change into (all) other outsiders with Polymorph.

(Personally I wouldn't allow it for balance reasons. But that would be a house rule.)

 

[RogueJK]

Since a dragon diciple is NOT a Celestial, you cannot polymorph into one...

He has 5 levels of Divine Disciple from the FRCS, not Dragon Disciple. At 5th level, a Divine Disciple becomes an Outsider, which allows him to then Polymorph into any Outsider of his type.

 

[Bill Muench]

Super-Duper AC Man Returns!

In case you're interested, I've posted the newest version of Super-Duper AC Man at http://www.enworld.org/messageboards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8396 . Enjoy!