What level should Magic Missile be?

What level should Magic Missile be?

  • 1st level - but on the more powerful side

    Votes: 116 92.1%
  • 2nd level - but weak for 2nd

    Votes: 4 3.2%
  • 2nd level

    Votes: 5 4.0%
  • 2nd level - but on the more powerful side

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3rd level - but weak for 3rd

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3rd level

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3rd level - but on the more powerful side

    Votes: 1 0.8%


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How about an option for just 1st level (which is what I'd choose). And for those who choose weak side of first level or zero level.

This poll is biased.

The best level one attack spell IMO is definitley color spray or ray of enfeeblement. At lower levels burning hands is a better damage dealing spell than MM too. It scales faster and hits multiple targets.

As others have said the only thing that possibly throws off magic missles strength of a normal level 1 spell is that it (and ray of enfeeblement) scales its damage longer than any level 1 spell.
 


marshaldwm said:
No choice for a perfectly reasonable 1st level spell, which is what I think it is.
Infiniti2000 said:
And again QFT. Really, Quidam, I'm disappointed at your biased poll. :(
The poll is not biased

Even Wotc says it is not "perfectly reasonable". IIRC the DMG even states that Magic Missile is supposed to be the the best 1st level spell for dealing damage.
 

frankthedm said:
The poll is not biased
There are at least four of us who prove that wrong.

frankthedm said:
Even Wotc says it is not "perfectly reasonable". IIRC the DMG even states that Magic Missile is supposed to be the the best 1st level spell for dealing damage.
Completely, absolutely, totally, entirely, wholly, and utterly irrelevant. What the DMG says has zero (none, zilch, nada, zip, nothing) bearing on a poll asking for opinions.
 

Apologies

Infiniti2000 said:
And again QFT. Really, Quidam, I'm disappointed at your biased poll. :(


If I knew how to add an option to an existing poll, I would. I honestly never considered that anyone would think MM not near the top of the 1st level tier.

Looking at the results thusfar, though, I can see that I was quite wrong and that most people consider MM to be balanced with the other 1st level spells. Rather than get into an argument about it (which belongs in the other thread) I'll simply repeat my apologies and take the feedback for what it's worth.
 

Infiniti2000 said:
There are at least four of us who prove that wrong.

Completely, absolutely, totally, entirely, wholly, and utterly irrelevant. What the DMG says has zero (none, zilch, nada, zip, nothing) bearing on a poll asking for opinions.

Make that 5, and good point infiniti.

Vorp
 

Quidam said:
Looking at the results thusfar, though, I can see that I was quite wrong and that most people consider MM to be balanced with the other 1st level spells. Rather than get into an argument about it .....
No worries, mate. Argument is what these boards are for.

IMO, Magic Missile is a 1st level spell. Neither too powerful (True Strike, anyone? How about RoE?) nor too weak (SM I).
 


I couldn't vote.

I would vote 1st-level, but make the spell weaker somehow (probably by capping the number of missiles produced at three). I don't think it's broken when cast by a 1st-level mage.
 

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