D&D (2024) What New Classes Should Be Added One D&D PHB?

[Ruin Explorer]

"For my money, no true Scotsman would ever..."

It's an opinion. I'm entitlted to it. No one has argued otherwise. But I'm still making a True Scotsman fallacy regardless of whether I am couching it as an opinion.

No. That's just blather. You're going from a rational argument into that sad internet behaviour of slapping "X fallacy" on everything, which completely shuts down all aesthetic discussion.

God it would be funny if you tried that line in the middle of an Art History lesson. You'd have basically been screamed at by even the nicest of Art History teachers and probably told to hop it.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

If you use your logic we could call 5e clerics clerics because they have spells if 8th abd 9th level, couldn't call 5e Wizards Wizards because they have spontasy casting, etc..., which was not the case in earlier edition.

I'm curious, which bit of my logic requires that?

And Ironman is inspired by Hephaestian mythology, which while not fantasy, has inspired fantasy and Sci Fi.

Would you like to elucidate further on that? I'm kind of fascinated. Links which discuss it are fine.

Honestly Spellfire screams Sorcerer subclass to me.

Yeah, in a better world maybe.

 

[Morrus]

No. That's just blather. You're going from a rational argument into that sad internet behaviour of slapping "X fallacy" on everything, which completely shuts down all aesthetic discussion.

Calm down.

 

[DEFCON 1]

What should be added? No new classes.
What I think will be added? No new classes.
What I'd fine with if they did? Any of them.

Artificer is an Eberron class for the Eberron setting and thus I don't feel needs to be in the new PHB (especially after being re-printed in Tasha's.) The Psion I do not believe would get enough space and page count in the new PHB to make people happy with it (especially if they want the Psion to not use spells and instead want a whole new system for it). So it should be saved for the Dark Sun campaign setting if/when that happens (as it'll be able to get more page count attributed to it.)

Summoner and Swordmage are two classes in my personal opinion that do not have a specific story, flavor or "job" for their place in the game world, which is why we haven't seen them stick around from times past and I don't think we will see them going forward. Other than the Core Four (which can afford to be more generic)... any other class added to the game appears to me to need a story reason to exist in the PHB. And something like a Summoner-- a class that can summon all manner of different types of creatures-- is more a mechanic to be used by existing classes than needing to be a class on its own. And as far as the Swordmage, the one consistent story of the class I always seemed to see has been "Arcane half-caster", which to me isn't a story, it's an empty space in a grid. And thus is no better than the Eldritch Knight and thus doesn't have a reason to exist in my own opinion. But if they were to get made and appear in the new PHB it's no skin off my nose.

And Warlord? It's fine. It's a fine class idea. Was fine in 4E to fill out the grid, and it's fine now. If they add it, okay, if they don't, won't bother me.