What?? No Epic Oozemaster???

Krug

Newshound
I demand a rewrite!

What the heck I'm talking about:
Epic-Level Progressions for
Prestige-Class Characters


http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/we/we20020706a

The list they've covered is kinda thin:
Animal lord
Arcane trickster
Bladesinger
Bloodhound
Cavalier
Deepwood sniper
Divine agent
Dragon disciple
Duelist
Dungeon delver
Elemental savant
Frenzied berserker
Gatecrasher
Holy liberator
Hospitaler
Master samurai
Planar champion
Planeshifter
Ninja of the Crescent Moon
Spymaster
Templar
Temple raider of Olidammara
Thief-acrobat
Warpriest
 

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According to Andy Collins (from his site's messageboards) it's the first installment of what will be a regular feature.

And I wanted to see the progression for the Epic Alienist.

(11th level - Azathoth eats you. And you gain three hit points.)
 

The expanding of certain prestige classes was, in my opinio, and mediocer idea at best anyway. It would have been cool if they expanded on the original idea with new, greater abilities that fit the classes. All they did is grant a few of the powers more uses per day and then give them extra feats. If that's all they do and suggest for all classes (core and prestige) then I think Wizards really dropped the ball creatively on that part at least.
 

Ahh, good to see I'm not the only one who wants to see Epic Oozemaster's and Epic Alienist's!!!

Now, we just need Epic True Necromancer... oh, wait, no, we really don't...

:p
 

Crothian said:
The expanding of certain prestige classes was, in my opinio, and mediocer idea at best anyway. It would have been cool if they expanded on the original idea with new, greater abilities that fit the classes. All they did is grant a few of the powers more uses per day and then give them extra feats. If that's all they do and suggest for all classes (core and prestige) then I think Wizards really dropped the ball creatively on that part at least.

Yeah, on that point I agree. The Animal Lord just gets a few bonus feats and that's it. They really haven't done much and I can't see any PC taking them up.
 

Not to mention the fact that after you get epic levels in single class CORE class, you get more feats, powers and such at epic levels.

That said, I'm working REALLY hard on making epic level Penumbral Lords, Mithril Knights and what ever else comes my way! ;)
 
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i concur that the treatment was lame. I expected cooler abilities from the Duellist, like adding your Charisma to your AC, or automatically treating every weapon used as keen, or something of that sort.

Arcane trickster was a wash as well. Of course it is nice to have more called sneak attacks per day and increased sneak attack damage, but what about some cool abilities like hiding in plain sight or auto-weapon focus for rays or something.
 

tleilaxu said:

Arcane trickster was a wash as well. Of course it is nice to have more called sneak attacks per day and increased sneak attack damage, but what about some cool abilities like hiding in plain sight or auto-weapon focus for rays or something.

Hide in Plain sight is possible with a really high Hide check. I agree what they did with the epic PrC is pretty lame, but what they did with the skills is pretty awesome.
 

The core classes don't get any new abilties when they reach Epic Levels, it's feats that's the only thing around for new abilities. That's why the bonus feats are important.
 


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