What Outsider abilities do plane touched get?

[TheEvil]

When making a plane-touched PC (Tiefling, Assamir, Genasi), what outsider abilites doe they get? Since none of them have racial hit dice, it seems obvious to me that the Features (HD, BAB, Saves, Skills) don't apply. Beyond that though, it does look like all the traits (Darkvision and weapon proficiencies) do. I have included the SRD listing for outsiders for convenience.

Do I have this right?

From the SRD:
Outsider Type: An outsider is at least partially composed of the essence (but not necessarily the material) of some plane other than the Material Plane. Some creatures start out as some other type and become outsiders when they attain a higher (or lower) state of spiritual existence.
Features: An outsider has the following features.
—8-sided Hit Dice.
—Base attack bonus equal to total Hit Dice (as fighter).
—Good Fortitude, Reflex, and Will saves.
—Skill points equal to (8 + Int modifier, minimum 1) per Hit Die, with quadruple skill points for the first Hit Die.
Traits: An outsider possesses the following traits (unless otherwise noted in a creature’s entry).
—Darkvision out to 60 feet.
—Unlike most other living creatures, an outsider does not have a dual nature—its soul and body form one unit. When an outsider is slain, no soul is set loose. Spells that restore souls to their bodies, such as raise dead, reincarnate, and resurrection, don’t work on an outsider. It takes a different magical effect, such as limited wish, wish, miracle, or true resurrection to restore it to life. An outsider with the native subtype can be raised, reincarnated, or resurrected just as other living creatures can be.
—Proficient with all simple and martial weapons and any weapons mentioned in its entry.
—Proficient with whatever type of armor (light, medium, or heavy) it is described as wearing, as well as all lighter types. Outsiders not indicated as wearing armor are not proficient with armor. Outsiders are proficient with shields if they are proficient with any form of armor.
—Outsiders breathe, but do not need to eat or sleep (although they can do so if they wish). Native outsiders breathe, eat, and sleep.

 

[Prism]

I'd go with all that. The biggest debate you are likely to get is about the martial weapon proficiency. I'd say you'd get it although maybe that wasn't the intent of the plane touched races as it doesn't mention this in the race descriptions in the books they are in

 

[Storm Raven]

Proficient with all simple and martial weapons and any weapons mentioned in its entry.
Proficient with whatever type of armor (light, medium, or heavy) it is described as wearing, as well as all lighter types. Outsiders not indicated as wearing armor are not proficient with armor. Outsiders are proficient with shields if they are proficient with any form of armor.

As a DM, I'd rule that these traits are overriden by any class that the planetouched is a member of (i.e. an Aasimar wizard is not proficient with scale armor, shields, or a longsword just because the example Aasimar warrior in the MM has them).

 

[TheEvil]

As a DM, I'd rule that these traits are overriden by any class that the planetouched is a member of (i.e. an Aasimar wizard is not proficient with scale armor, shields, or a longsword just because the example Aasimar warrior in the MM has them).

Remember that this is from the Outsider entry, not the plane-touched one. Whether or not the example Aasimar is a warrior immaterial to the the question. That aside, the specific race I am looking at has no example creature.

 

[werk]

As a native outsider, they just get darkvision, which is listed in the race description.

 

[the Jester]

Yep, by the RAW they get the free proficiencies.

It's perfectly reasonable to house rule otherwise, however, and I'd be tempted to do so.

 

[Krelios]

Neither the Aasimar, nor the Tiefling lists "Outsider Traits" in their special qualities list. Therefore, they do not get outsider traits. It tells you very explicitly how to create a Tiefling or Aasimar. If it doesn't list an ability, they don't get it. Plain and simple.

 

[Infiniti2000]

The creature description should tell you exactly what racial traits the character possesses. For instance, the racial traits for aasimar are explicitly listed, so aasimar characters get no more and no less than what is listed.

As a side comment, anyone else first read planetouched with a different, virtual hyphenation: planet-ouched?

 

[Storm Raven]

Remember that this is from the Outsider entry, not the plane-touched one. Whether or not the example Aasimar is a warrior immaterial to the the question. That aside, the specific race I am looking at has no example creature.

Which specific race are you looking at then? You listed the planetouched (aasimar, tiefling, genasi), all of whom have specific examples listed. Now you say the creature you are looking at has no example creature, which seems confusing. If you let us know what creature you are interested in getting information about, you would get better answers.

 

[Prism]

Neither the Aasimar, nor the Tiefling lists "Outsider Traits" in their special qualities list. Therefore, they do not get outsider traits. It tells you very explicitly how to create a Tiefling or Aasimar. If it doesn't list an ability, they don't get it. Plain and simple.

Why would it need to list outsider traits as a feature. Planetouched are outsiders - nothing else needs to be said. Would you also rule that Rakshasas don't get martial weapon proficiency as it doesn't say so in their entry either? If it was the intention for all native outsiders not to get martial weapon proficiency wouldn't it say this under the native outsider subtype