D&D 4E What sort of 3rd party 4e books do you want?

Irda Ranger said:
Who said being good all the time was easy? Infernal demons are much easier (more fun?) to satisfy because you get to be selfish and wallow in the sin of your choice while you're doing it; they don't care.
Except it's not hard to be Good in D&D. Just don't cast Evil spells, or do overtly evil acts, and there you go.

Angels should require a whole other level of standards those they give power to, on the grounds that by endowing the Angelic Warlock with power, 1) the angel is approving of the individual, and 2) that individual is now a direct representative of the angel.

I expect Angelic Warlocks would have to hold to a similar code as Paladins.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. They would likely have to hold specific oaths and codes depending on their angelic patron. It should come with other drawbacks.

Among other things, it may be that angels seldom give the boon of their power out. There may be only one individual who is the servant of that particular angel at one time. Another is that you might be the messenger of that specific angel; you take this power, you do this angel's work. It doesn't matter if you want to go save Happytown from the necromancer - your patron wants all the demons exterminated from Joyland. Get to work.

On the other hand, I don't really see Angels as all that... Nice. Angels of legend are pretty, uh, hardcore dudes. Not a whole lot of loving thy neighbor and having mercy.
 
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Adventures! These will be the easiest to sell to me.

A realms book that helps set up a PC fief, kingdom, etc. I want building costs, trading network rules, and so on.

Mass combat rules that I like - we're dreaming right ;) Preferably at about 10:1 scale. D&D magic makes this tougher, but I think it is doable. CR per se is largely gone, but maybe the monster levels can be translated into something similar to the Grim Tales mass combat rules.
 

Rechan said:
On the other hand, I don't really see Angels as all that... Nice. Angels of legend are pretty, uh, hardcore dudes. Not a whole lot of loving thy neighbor and having mercy.
The Prophecy said:
Thomas: Did you ever notice how in the Bible when God needed to punish someone .. make an example, or whenever God needed a killing .. he sent an angel. Have you ever wondered what a creature like that must be like? Your whole existence praising your God but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?
The Prophecy said:
Catherine: Why?
Gabriel: I'm an angel. I kill firstborns while their mammas watch. I turn cities into salt. I even, when I feel like it, ripe the soul out from little girls and from now to kingdom come the only thing you can count on in your existence is never understanding why.
:D

Damn fine film.
 


I'd like to see a dedicated undersea supplement, similar to "The Deep" (Mystic Eye Games) and "Into the Blue" (Bastion Press), but with a 4e spin.

I'll add my vote for a supplement dealing with witches and/or shaman, with hags thrown in for good measure.
 

I realy liked the BoEF, it was a well designed supplement with rounded out, playable classes. I wouldn't mind seeing that one come out again.

Ravenloft... though I love the setting, and everything it stands for, I just spent a year running a Forgotten Realms Horror based campaign, and realy Ravenloft doesn't quite compare to what I turned the realms into. I still wouldn't mind seeing a new one though.

I would love to see Palladium Books hop on the "D20 standard" wagon. I want to see RIFTS done in 3.5 already, and 4th is creeping up on us, so a 4e Style set of rules would be killer!

The re-release of Night Below would kick all of the ass of the Roleplaying univerce. I loved that box! I loved playing in it, I loved running it with a different group later, I loved designing my own sequil to it. Night below IMO is the be-all and end-all to good gaming experience.

I would also like to see the new line of "Complete" supliments. I always love new options and surprises that I can throw at my players, and my players can surprise me with. (Yes, though I read the rules, I don't always memorise them).
 


Iron Heroes!

Rifts d20 but that would never happen as long as KS is in charge. The vast majority of systems would be better than his homegrown system as a matter of fact.
 

I can't be the only one who wants to see an RPG version of Avatar, the Last Airbender and i think the new powers system of 4E would work well for it. This could be so great if they manage to do it right.

More of that awesome third-party psionics material. WotC has always been very hit-or-miss with their psionics, and since they probably won't get around to releasing the 4E psionics handbook for a year or two anyway, third-party and homebrew will have a chance.

A good fantasy-madscience-steampunk setting. Not Iron Heroes steampunk, although I do like Iron Heroes, but full-on Victoriana with clanks. Okay, I'm really talking about Girl Genius here, I can admit it, but that's what I want.

Not just the monk class, but the big book of monks. Internal and esoteric martial arts and eastern mysticism, in a useful, balanced, attractive mechanical package. Yeah, I know, when pigs fly, but a man can dream. :)
 


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