What to do when play styles don't mesh

[Thanee]

You could also ask them to DM instead, but from what has been described above, I would also rather split the group.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Li Shenron]

One player likes to be overbearing, has issues dealing with women gamers, and likes to talk down to players who disagree with his rules interpretations. Sometimes he is right, but when that is the case rather than just accepting the fact that he won the argument, he likes to make the loser feel stupid. He also is playing a Neutral PC in an evil campaign, and likes to stall the gmeplay to argue his personal interpretation of games rules, and the setting.

This doesn't seem to me just the description of a bad player, but rather that of a bad person. If he's not a bad person outside the game, then the game is having a bad effect on him and he should stop for his own good.

I tend to be as much diplomatic as I can, but if what you write is a truthful picture, just kick him out. OTOH, the second player doesn't sound so terrible, so keep him and maybe he'd shape up a little when he sees how his friend ended.

 

[dagger]

Life is short, and time to game is even SHORTER!

You know what to do....

 

[Necros]

I would say the message is clear, and recieved. As to letting one of them DM, that was tried and failed badly. It will have to be the highway, which was really what I was thinking all along essentially, but i wanted some more input first.

 

[The Thayan Menace]

The End is Nigh

Well, it looks like the matter has been decided. We are kicking both of them out and I, for one, feel pretty good about this decision.

So, as Samuel L. Jackson (a.k.a. "Shaft Windu") would put it:

"This party's over ...."

 

[DarrenGMiller]

Necros and Menace, I wish you the best. It might be tough at first, but I feel certain that it will work out for the best in the long run. If I can ever help, feel free to ask. I seem to have had my share of player problems over the years (and experienced my share of "Geek Social Fallacies"), but as the saying goes, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."


DM

 

[The Thayan Menace]

I'll Have the Last Word, Thank You ....

We have officially kicked them out, and it feels like a great burden has been lifted from our gaming table. The remaining players and I are really looking forward to our next session ... without them.

 

[Arrgh! Mark!]

Don't tolerate it. The words "I don't care, neither do these guys. I'm the DM and I say shut up. If you do it again, you can leave. We are here to play a game, not argue trivia."

Short, simple, effective. The guy who speaks down to others and has issues with women? Kick him immediately out of the group. The other guy I'd talk to.

Edit: Looks like my advice comes late

 

[The Thayan Menace]

Better Late Than Never

Don't sweat it.

Besides both players were problematic.

The misogynistic rules lawyer had to go, but at least I respected him as a person and a friend (though I didn't exactly vibe with his attitude towards women gamers).

However, the whiner (a.k.a. "the other guy") was absolutely worthless. We should have flushed him a long time ago.

Anyways, what's done is done ....