You are 100% effectively no-true Scotsmaning, whether you mean to or not.
There’s a vast array of games I would define as RPGs, just not the subsection that we are discussing. You may accuse me of “few-true Scotsmanning, if you wish. If the role-playing is limited to your head, and doesn’t interact with the mechanics of the game at all, I wouldn’t call it an RPG. I might say that Norin Pintchugger, my Dwarf Priest in
Angband, likes ale and hates elves, but there’s no way to express that in game.
- WRPGs typically let you create at least one character (even if they had some pre-determined stuff like their role in the setting), sometimes the entire party. JRPGs typically did not let you create any characters at all.
- WRPGs usually gave you some choices in the story, and those choices became increasingly meaningful ones over the 1990s. JRPGs typically did not offer any choices or those offered were false/circular choices.
The two genres are so incredibly different, it’s a shame they (almost) share an acronym. I vastly prefer the former to the latter, for precisely the reasons you describe. But you are at least playing a (predefined) character in an jRPG, which you can then guide down the carefully-constructed railway tracks, occasionally making (largely-irrelevant) story choices, so it does qualify in my book.
The line for what is and isn’t an RPG is a fuzzy one, on both the tabletop and the computer or console. Clearly you’re a broad church kinda person, while I have a narrower definition. That’s cool. Unless you want an argument, in which case:
Your
ridiculous assertion that
caves of qud is an RPG just prove your willful ignorance. Just because you have fond memories of playing this primitive game, bereft of meaningful choice, while sheltering in your uncle’s basement during the Blitz, doesn’t mean it’s an RPG by any stretch! Things have moved on, grandpa! You need to play some REAL RPGs, like hidden indie gems
The Witcher 3 or Arcanum - but you probably haven’t heard of those. And don’t get me started on “so-called” jRPGs - more like [redacted].