What would lloth have to do to get the drow to turn on her?

[Piratecat]

You don't teach Lolth how to coup.

This is an excellent point. Lloth's specialty is betrayal and backstabbing; in any easily conceivable scenario, she'll let someone think she's being overthrown, much to their later surprise and peril. She's the original author of "The Big Pop-Up Book of Nasty Surprises." I can only see her letting the drow rebel if it was going to help her in some way.

 

[Agamon]

This is an excellent point. Lloth's specialty is betrayal and backstabbing; in any easily conceivable scenario, she'll let someone think she's being overthrown, much to their later surprise and peril. She's the original author of "The Big Pop-Up Book of Nasty Surprises." I can only see her letting the drow rebel if it was going to help her in some way.

That's another good point. Any betrayal against Lloth is most likely orchestrated by Lloth.

 

[Agamon]

I disagree with Agamon. All it would take is one of Lolth's traditional "Do this to serve me" statements that turned into a disaster, and caused the deaths of a ton of drow, and a Saviour from Elistraee to preach the new way. It'd be the perfect time for a coup.

Doubtful. Were talking about a race, not a city or even a country. There already have been pockets of drow that have turned away from Lloth, but to get every drow to turn away from her, they'd need to be subjugated or slaughtered.

 

[Celebrim]

I've always detested the way in which the Drow are portrayed because they are always protrayed in a way that I strongly associate with lawful evil rather than chaotic evil. They have never once acted in a way suggestive of chaotic evil.

It's utterly inexplicable why they haven't turned on her in mass already since thier own society and inclinations are so removed from the diety that they serve. And if they did, arguably there is nothing she could do about it since most D&D cosmologies postulate that a large portion of your divine power is the direct result of being worshipped. The (lawful evil) drow would turn on her, Lloth's power level would sink to being a minor fiend lord, and all her other followers (being chaotic) would immediately go into rebellion to escape her control.

The end.

Like I said, I detest the way Drow have been portrayed.

If you want to make the Drow lawful evil, and there are several reasons why that would be interesting, do so. But don't make them lawful evil and then pretend that they are chaotic as if there were no interesting roles for actually chaotic beings or that the distinction didn't really mean anything but color.

 

[Gez]

I already hit it.

What's her THIAC0 again?

 

[Nifft]

What's her THIAC0 again?

You mean hear AC, of course. Her THAC0 would only be important if she were trying to hit you.

-- N

PS: "PC, tell us where you scored with Lolth?" -- "That'd be in the thorax, Bob."

 

[Nightfall]

Nifft,

True.

I still say in the end, Orcus will rise to the top and all the drow will become toadies to various demon princes as the Underdark become the new home for the Abyss/Fiends/Blood War.

 

[Heathansson]

What would lloth have to do to get the drow to tern on her and forsake her? yup, i asked it. So what do you think? Please don't give me an answer like "nothing she could do would get them to tern on her" it is not helpful.

free healthcare for the poor, subsidized by the merchant and noble class.

 

[Nightfall]

Heath,

No that's just good sense for people with the money to do it.

 

[Heathansson]

I'd hit it.

Careful...the male in an arthropod mating ofttimes ends up dessert.