What would you like to see dropped from Dungeon?

[Mark]

It's the other 100 or so pages I could do without.

As I stated in a previous thread, I've never liked Dungeon,

I'm guessing that you're not the target audience for Dungeon nor for this poll. Dungeon has always been primarily about pre-fab adventures.

 

[Psion]

With a dream choice of what to get rid of or alter in the magazine you'd like to fret over little illustrated bits of humor? Mt. Zogon takes up a sidebar and while I'm not loving Downer, it's only two pages

Two pages that could be something useful like Maps of Mystery or entertaining like Order of the Stick.

 

[NewLifeForm]

I'm guessing that you're not the target audience for Dungeon nor for this poll. Dungeon has always been primarily about pre-fab adventures.

While this is very true and I do not dispute it, I am part of an audience that is not being reached. Consider the fact that I'm a devote gamer of 25+ years who GMs and is not buying magazine. I am part of the audience just as everyone else here is, but some are not happy with the product and it has nothing to do with the comics.

How do you make it appeal to us? How come your guaranteed customer is not buying?

NewLifeForm

 

[fanboy2000]

Well, that's part of the problem. We've already had the thread where we describe why we don't by Dungeon and Dragon. Circulation is up. Things are looking good. Yet, this poll is about what you'd drop from Dungeon. Notice how many people are saying "We love the magazine, but don't like this one feature." They're already buying, and the best way to keep as many readers as possible is to keep the magazine as stable as possible.

Tweaking the magazine endlessly could cause more harm than good. You could drive away more people than you brought in. Dungeon is just now stabilizing, after years of constant change.

 

[Jaws]

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[MoogleEmpMog]

Drop the adventures (or drop down to one adventure).



Seriously, though - I love the other DM content in the current incarnation of Dungeon, and getting more per issue would definitely make me into a subscriber. I recognize that this would totally alienate the core audience of the magazine, but, hey, this poll asked what I would drop, not what I think would be the best business decision.

 

[Einan]

Rock on, Erik!

But it hasn't come to that, and it won't come to that regardless of what 78 people on EN World vote in a poll.

You're free to edit your newspaper (?) however you see fit. I'm doing the same.

Downer stays. If you hate it so much that you don't want to buy the magazine because of a two-page cartoon, more power to you.

--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon

Cheers!

I read Downer. I like it. I get the increasingly strong feeling that I will like Downer a lot more the longer it goes, as the storyline seems to be longer than the two pages it's allowed. If you don't like it, fine. Skip over those two pages. I don't read but a quarter of the posts on this site because I don't have any interest in 3/4 of them; I don't whine and complain that you people should be censored.

If you do feel that strongly about Downer, then stop your subscription and stop purchasing the magazine. I think if you actually, critically examine your dislike for it, you'll see that it's not that big of a deal to bypass it.

However, I have to say to Erik Mona: Way to frickin' go, Man. Dungeon is right now as good, if not better than I have ever seen it. Kudos to you and your staff over there. I am going to miss Wil Save, but I'm sure you guys will find something worthwhile to fill that space with.

And if you don't, I'll still buy the magazine because the excellent content far outweighs any mediocre content by a ton and a half of d20's.

Keep making the magic.

Einan

 

[Jaws]

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[lgburton]

Letters to the editor are important for a couple of reasons.

1. They give the readers a voice in the magazine.
2. They allow us to convey certain information that would be awkward if presented any other way. Generally, if someone has a question about a back issue or a magazine policy or what have you, other people probably have the same question, and rattling off an answer in the letter column is a good way to get info out quickly.

Plus, when you have writers like The Koga (see the latest Dragon), you've got to print their wisdom for the masses.

--Erik

i generally do agree that a voice for the readers IN the magazine is a good thing. in fact, i laughed my a#$ off at the koga letter, and really enjoyed the fact that you chose to share it with us. thanks. no, really!

HOWEVER, later in that same dragon, some dingus wrote a letter based on letting you all know the name of the "glaive" from kull. the letter itself was a waste of time - unless you had several more like it. is it just too optimistic of me to think that the possiblility of multiple letters-to-the-editor, based on the fact that the writer was either too lazy to flip the page or completely failed his spot check, is unlikely at best?

anyhow. i did vote against downer - because i find it rather incomprehensible. i've just begun to pick up dungeon again after many years, missed the whats going on in downer article, and find myself just generally more interested in the other content of the book (which, for the most part, is d*#m fine content). i think the reason that downer is so unpopular is because it is so serialized that, without having read it from the beginning, it is difficult to follow. it's a common problem that full blown comic books have, so only getting the story 2 pages at a time is really a difficult thing for most people to be OK with.

i'm definetly sad to see Wil save go, but i understand wil's reasons. i certainly hope that you find some other columnist who will, rather than focusing purely on mechanics or DM advice, help bring our hobby into perspective in the same way that Wil did. I think that one of the reasons i started picking up dungeon again was specifically because i enjoyed wil's column so much.

 

[Graf]

The Dungeon Mt. Z is not as funny as dragon, but its smaller and seems to be telling a story. Besides, its one of the only comics from the monsters perspective, I find it deeply appealing if only intermitently funny.
The main character is so astoundingly obliviously insane that I think you have to like it.

Downer is great. The story itself has hits and misses and there is too much set up but it deserves to finish its run. Last episdoe with Downer picking his own trap?
Too funny.

Having said that portent stucks, its never funny, the characters switch in and out at random. Its like an unfunny comic you see each week in a newspaper.