What's the difference between D20 Fantasy and D&D?

[teitan]

No, but I hardly think that is a fair (or accurate) analogy to what has happened here, at least in terms of someone using the term d20 Fantasy for their own personal reference rather than D&D...

No it is fair and accurate.

 

[Raven Crowking]

No it is fair and accurate.

No, it isn't.

And I do think 3e is D&D.

RC

 

[Gentlegamer]

What I've found very perplexing is why those who left (A)D&D in the past for "being such a bad system" are so adamant that the game they are currently playing "really" be D&D.

 

[DonTadow]

What I've found very perplexing is why those who left (A)D&D in the past for "being such a bad system" are so adamant that the game they are currently playing "really" be D&D.

Personally, I find it offensive. It's equivalent to an old man telling me how basketball or football use to be and how what we play now is just a ball being thrown at a hoop. Whereas, you could apply the same logic and say what was played back in the old days wasn't really dungeons and dragons but a clumsy first step at a complete and nearly unbroken system.

 

[Storm Raven]

What I've found very perplexing is why those who left (A)D&D in the past for "being such a bad system" are so adamant that the game they are currently playing "really" be D&D.

No reason, other than the fact that we are playing D&D.

When I'm playing GURPS, I say "I'm playing GURPS". When I'm playing BESM, I say "I'm playing BESM".

When I say I'm playing D&D, I mean, I am playing D&D.

Clarity of language and all.

I suppose there would be no reason for a naturalized U.S. citizen to get annoyed if you told them they weren't actually a "real American", after all, they were once citizens of another nation.

 

[Psion]

What I've found very perplexing is why those who left (A)D&D in the past for "being such a bad system" are so adamant that the game they are currently playing "really" be D&D.

I don't define D&D by its understandable shortcomings of the time any more than I define cars as being manual transmissions* and carburetors.

* - if you care, I drive a stick and see certain benefits in them... but that doesn't mean I think cars with automatic transmissions "aren't cars".

 

[PapersAndPaychecks]

I drive a stick

No intention to ridicule you, but US English does make me laugh sometimes.

Let's see if I can figure this out... "stick" = "stick shift" = "manual transmission", yes?

 

[Gentlegamer]

No intention to ridicule you, but US English does make me laugh sometimes.

Let's see if I can figure this out... "stick" = "stick shift" = "manual transmission", yes?

Bingo.

 

[BroccoliRage]

No intention to ridicule you, but US English does make me laugh sometimes.

Let's see if I can figure this out... "stick" = "stick shift" = "manual transmission", yes?

Now, hold on one second there, Stu. This one isn't going to slide.

Referring to the toilet as the "loo"? And let's not forget British English as it was spoken during first half of the last century, sir.

I have to say, AE&G (American English and Grammar) is the one true linguistic system. All else is a pale imitation. Especially Australians. (j/k)

 

[Desdichado]

No intention to ridicule you, but US English does make me laugh sometimes.

Let's see if I can figure this out... "stick" = "stick shift" = "manual transmission", yes?

No, but think "Harry Potter" and "Quidditch" when you hear "I drive a stick" and you'll be closer to the truth.