What's the equivalent of Practiced Spellcaster for fighters?

[Quartz]

Spellcasters have the Practiced Spellcaster feat to counter the effects of multiclassing. Is there such a feat for Fighters to counter the loss of BAB by multiclassing?

 

[Diirk]

Weapon Focus ? While that doesn't catch you up with iterative attacks, practised caster doesn't get you higher level spells either !

In all seriousness tho, it isn't particularly needed, as all classes advance BAB (altho not at the full rate admittedly), and generally you'll be picking up other abilities to make up for any loss of BAB.

 

[Blue]

Spellcasters have the Practiced Spellcaster feat to counter the effects of multiclassing. Is there such a feat for Fighters to counter the loss of BAB by multiclassing?

Yeap. It's that BAB is cumulative.

Let's try:

Wizard 4 / Cleric 4 / Bard 4 - caster level 4 in all classes. 2nd level spells for each class. Where a straight caster would have CL 12 and 6th level spells. Definitely behind the power curve, so it needs something to add to it.

Ranger 4 / Fighter 4 / Rogue 4 - BAB +11 vs BAB +12 for a straight classed Fighter, plus has a bunch of nifty extras like evasion and sneak attack, plus the ranger stuff.

Basically, if casting classes worked like BAB where it all added up, they wouldn't need the crutch of practiced spellcaster. It's there because the game can't handle multiclassing spellcasters as well as it handles other things - like multiclassing and BAB, which works so it doesn't need a fix.

Cheers,
=Blue(23)

 

[Infiniti2000]

Also, what fighter multi-classes into a non-full progression BAB class/PrC?

 

[Quartz]

Consider a Ftr 4/ Wiz 6. She attacks at BAB +7, and her Fireballs do 6d6 damage. Now add in the Practiced Spellcaster feat and her Fireballs do 10d6 damage. But she still attacks at BAB +7. A bit unfair, isn't it?

 

[Bacris]

Also, what fighter multi-classes into a non-full progression BAB class/PrC?

There are some great average BAB classes / PrCs that a fighter could still do well multiclassing into

 

[Glyfair]

Consider a Ftr 4/ Wiz 6. She attacks at BAB +7, and her Fireballs do 6d6 damage. Now add in the Practiced Spellcaster feat and her Fireballs do 10d6 damage. But she still attacks at BAB +7. A bit unfair, isn't it?

Not at all. What level fireballs are the 10th level fighters throwing? In fact, more than likely he has a few touch attack spells to compensate (such as the notorious wraithstrike).

Even spellcasting classes add to the BAB of a fighter. If it worked like a spellcaster that Ftr 4/Wiz 7 would have a BAB of +$. That would require a "Practiced Fighter" feat.

 

[Deset Gled]

Consider a Ftr 4/ Wiz 6. She attacks at BAB +7, and her Fireballs do 6d6 damage. Now add in the Practiced Spellcaster feat and her Fireballs do 10d6 damage. But she still attacks at BAB +7. A bit unfair, isn't it?

Not at all, IMNSHO. There has to be some loss of power in exchange for the ability to cast those fireballs.

 

[Particle_Man]

Meelee Weapon Mastery is a pretty decent consolation feat, if you have 4 levels of fighter. It doesn't add to BAB, but does add to attack and damage (and stacks with WS! Woohoo!)

Also, some feats allow you to multi-class with fighter and treat the other class as "fighter levels" for the purpose of qualifying for feats like Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization, and Weapon Supremacy.

 

[Slaved]

Consider a Ftr 4/ Wiz 6. She attacks at BAB +7, and her Fireballs do 6d6 damage. Now add in the Practiced Spellcaster feat and her Fireballs do 10d6 damage. But she still attacks at BAB +7. A bit unfair, isn't it?

Now that you mention it, it is kindof unfair that the character has to spend a feat for one side of his build that the other side gets for free.

Maybe it should work more like Tome of Battle and all of your other classes should stack as half levels?