What's the hardest attribute to effectively role-play?

[Hriston]

I said more one than the other. That's not a binary.

My dictionary says a binary is "something having two parts". What definition were you using?

 

[Micah Sweet]

My dictionary says a binary is "something having two parts". What definition were you using?

Not having any space in between.

 

[Hriston]

Not having any space in between.

Ah, okay. Yes, dividing RPGing into "roleplaying" and "gaming" seems, to me, to be setting up a dichotomy. When I pointed out how roleplaying is fully integrated into the game and, thus, not really dichotomous in that they can't be separated within the context of an RPG (i.e. when you are roleplaying, you are playing the game and vice versa), you seemed to contrast that with roleplaying that is focused on setting exploration, as if it was something different from what I was talking about, i.e. not an interaction with the game, which is totally possible. Roleplaying can occur outside of games just like games can occur outside of roleplaying, so I gave my best guess as to what I thought you were talking about might look like. Apparently, you were just taking the opportunity to make your preference for setting exploration known, but I'm not sure why you then went on to contrast that with "engaging strictly as a game" unless you were trying to set up another dichotomy between what you prefer and what you don't. Again, I'm at a loss as to how one can play an RPG and not engage with it "as a game". I realize you used the word strictly, but I don't understand what else you think is going on that you're saying is not a game.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Ah, okay. Yes, dividing RPGing into "roleplaying" and "gaming" seems, to me, to be setting up a dichotomy. When I pointed out how roleplaying is fully integrated into the game and, thus, not really dichotomous in that they can't be separated within the context of an RPG (i.e. when you are roleplaying, you are playing the game and vice versa), you seemed to contrast that with roleplaying that is focused on setting exploration, as if it was something different from what I was talking about, i.e. not an interaction with the game, which is totally possible. Roleplaying can occur outside of games just like games can occur outside of roleplaying, so I gave my best guess as to what I thought you were talking about might look like. Apparently, you were just taking the opportunity to make your preference for setting exploration known, but I'm not sure why you then went on to contrast that with "engaging strictly as a game" unless you were trying to set up another dichotomy between what you prefer and what you don't. Again, I'm at a loss as to how one can play an RPG and not engage with it "as a game". I realize you used the word strictly, but I don't understand what else you think is going on that you're saying is not a game.

Basically I see mechanics as having their best use being modeling the material trappings of the setting and how they interact, and have little use for "game" outside of that, beyond what is practically necessary to play.

 

[Maxperson]

You put this in TTRPG General but it probably belongs in one of the D&D areas. I think the most difficult to effectively roleplay is Wisdom. Wisdom governs how perceptive your character is at understanding their environment as well as the people they interact with. It's the person with a high Wisdom who looks at the man with calloused hands and ink stains who will know he used to be a laborer but now works a white collar job. It's hard to roleplay because the DM has to provide you with enough detail for you to know such things.

Wisdom or Charisma. Both are very hard to roleplay if you don't already have personally have them.